The link between religion and the paranormal? I have a question, page 1

reply to post by semidiablan

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The healer that would want to perfect one's art, should have cloaks of every religion in closet, and also a doctor's jacket. Then, making a quick pre-inquiry to the patient's beliefs, one could choose right 'uniform' to wear and do the tricks to drive away the 'evil' spirits. If patient is atheist, then one could dress up as psychologian and tell the patient that there's a problem with his/hers psyche and act accordingly.

Faith can be a trendemous weapon (or cure, in this case).

-v

reply to post by semidiablan

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What really saddens me on ATS, is the often held philosophy of many members, that if you can't see something; then it doesn't exist. Then because you can't see it, you never bother to investigate it. Because you don't bother to investigate it, then you ridicule those who have found out that the invisible does exist.

Fortunately, there are scientists who have researched this over a long period of time, and one notable one was Sir Oliver Lodge, fellow of the Royal Society for Science, and inventer of the Automobile Spark Plug (Lodge Plugs). He was so distrought when his son Raymond was killed in the 1st World War, that he decided to find out if life existed in some form beyond the grave; and it does. The evidence is out there, and you just have to look for it.

If somebody was very unpleasant just before they 'died', then they will be just the same when their spirit leaves their body. Just imagine for a moment you've just died. You are still in the room, but looking at your own body, and you speak to the other people there, but they don't answer you. So what do you do, you try and attract their attention, but to no avail, because life after death doesn't exist, does it? Well, that's what you've been taught; if it's invisible you can't see it.

Some incredibly strong willed people hang around where they 'died' for generations, even centuries. They have been summoned to safety by a person from higher dimensions, but they are afraid and don't understand; they are souls in turmoil.

Basically, clearing a room or building of the unwelcome presence of a person who now exists in their spirit body and not in the material one, is to persuade them to go to the person who wants to help them to safety. This can be done by a religious person, or by a person who has no religion, but who has a understanding of these matters.

The stronger the deceased, the harder the task; and when you are in that situation, trying to stop someone being grabbed by an extremely unpleasant spirit person, it gets very tough. It's like being in a war zone at its worst, on some occasions. (I speak from experience).

I hope this may provide an answer to the OP.

reply to post by semidiablan

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Religion and the supernatural are normally tied together because religious people talk about reincarnation and stuff like that. Religion isn't really just about being kind or stuff like that. It doesn't really ONLY talk about God, Jesus, Buddha, Moses, or anything like that. I don't really know much about other religions that are not really popular. However I do know that many religions speak of reincarnations and the Karma in doing things in one life that leads to the next.

For example the Buddhist religion speaks mostly about Cause and Effect. It says that if one does something real bad in his life, like a crime, then that person is likely to suffer in his next life. And sometimes it goes on saying that one person might be doomed to be living forever as a ghost or going down to hell to pay for his wrong doings. It ties together with the supernatural as a punishment for humanity.

Most religions view the supernatural as a punishment from God and look down on them. Once they see something as a supernatural like a ghost then they'll immediately freak and try to get away as soon as possible. Its not that their afraid of him its beacuse they're afraid of what might become of them if they associated with someone who was punished by God. They start to look down on them and soon begin to view them as non existent paranormals.

A lot of religions have gone astray in the modern age. To truly understand them, you gotta look in the early years of the religion. The beginning of it all.

reply to post by CHA0S

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An evil spirit can possess a body that has a soul. I'm saying this cause I believe it. The people who claim that some one is possess and is acting crazy because once the evil spirit possesses the body it starts fighting the actual soul. Most people think the evil spirit is always stronger then the soul because its evil however that's not necessary true. A soul can be stronger then the evil spirit. And when it is, it starts an all out war inside the physical shell. Therefore causing the person to be crazy acting. There's two spirits inside fighting for control. One physical shell can only take one consciousness. If the evil spirit and the actual soul is fighting then the physical shell will go astray and start acting crazy.

However if the evil spirit won the fight and the actual soul is pushed aside then the person is bound to change. He might act differently or do things differently. Some evil spirits just want a physical shell to feel the living world again. They're not necessary evil. Some are but some aren't. They just want another feel at the living for being dead so long.

It's wrong to take what's not theirs but the desire just becomes too much and when they see a chance they latch on. It's not like they want to make the person look crazy. It's because they latched onto a strong soul and started an all out war inside. They can't just leave because of the desire and the actual soul won't let them take control.

If there is an actual evil spirit taking over then that's not good news but over all some of them just want a feel at the living world. They mean no harm. But it doesn't mean that you can just step aside and let them have your body. You gotta fight for what's yours!

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