Goldman Sachs 2009 bonuses top $23 Billion, page 1
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Topic started on 13-10-2009 @ 02:58 PM by warrenb
On Thursday, Goldman Sachs will announce the firm's bonus payments for 2009. Analysts expect the bonus pool to mushroom to $23 billion -- double the bonus pool paid to employees in 2008. Earlier this year, Goldman Sachs said that it had put aside $11.4 billion for bonuses during the first half of the year.

“The absolute size of compensation payouts will rise significantly,” Keith Horowitz, an analyst at Citigroup, wrote in a note to clients two weeks ago, highlighted by Andrew Sorkin in The New York Times' dealbook column Tuesday.

How much is $23,000,000,000?

For one thing, it's enough to send 460,000 full paying students to Harvard University for one year, or 115,000 for four years.

It's enough to pay the health insurance premium for the average American family ($13,375) 1.7 million times.

It's enough to upgrade 191 million computers to Windows 7 operating system (priced at $119.99), or to buy 115 million iPhones at $199.99 (provided the recipient was willing to sign a two-year contract).

Or, apparently, it's enough to reward the employees of Goldman Sachs for a bonanza trading year, at a firm where average employee compensation was recently $622,000 -- and likely to be greater this year.

The $23 billion figure could leave some American taxpayers woozy -- the US government bailed out Goldman Sachs with a multi-billion payment last year, which the firm has since repaid.

But while Goldman is likely to pay its biggest bonuses ever to employees, the firm pays very little in taxes worldwide. In 2008, the company was said to have paid just $14 million in taxes worldwide, and paid $6 billion in 2007.

The firm's corporate tax rate? About 1 percent. According a prominent tax lawyer, “They have taken steps to ensure that a lot of their income is earned in lower-tax jurisdictions.”

Sorkin says Goldman's CEO is trying to hold off criticism by making a big charitable donation.

"Now there’s talk inside Goldman that it is considering making a huge charitable donation — perhaps more than $1 billion — as a way to help deflect the criticism," Sorkin says. "Such a donation would be a welcome gesture that would no doubt benefit many needy organizations. But it would most likely be seen for what it is: a one-time move to draw attention away from where most of the money is really going. A large charitable donation also raises questions about the company’s fiduciary duty to its shareholders; it could be seen as giving away profits that ostensibly belong to them."
rawstory.com...

$23 Billion in bonuses!

How do they do it? Do they use those market robots?

On a side note, does anyone know if they did indeed return the over $10 billion that the Gov gave them in bailout funds last October (2008) ??

They said they were going to return the funds or some of it, but I can;t find anything concrete stating that they did indeed return the money.

$23 billion in bonuses, wow. That would outfit one hell of a lair.


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 03:08 PM by StinkyFeet
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Wow that is encouraging news. It must mean they are doing well and at least things in the financial sector are improving. I hope the people that get the bonuses use it wisely and enjoy it.



reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 03:29 PM by Grey Magic
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sorry for criticizing your ignorance, but...

With amounts of money this size, there is blood involved, peoples lives destroyed and ruined.

Jobs lost, etcetera...


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 03:37 PM by StinkyFeet
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I would say chances are it means jobs were saved and/or created. A company cannot grow without good leadership and a great sales staff. I bet a good hunk of this is going to the salesforce who create the business that creates the revenue to keep them in business.


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 03:39 PM by David9176
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This makes me sick to my stomach. These guys are thieves!! Now we know why GS's contributed so much too OBAMA"S CAMPAIGN (and McCAIN's as well)!

They wanted to keep THEIR MONEY!!

WOohoo!!

Millions out of work....countless people losing their houses.....and so many are struggling.

I don't know how people don't demand these guys be put in prison.

[edit on 13-10-2009 by David9176]


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 07:47 PM by Zosynspiracy
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High stress? LMAO! Shut up! You Wallstreet clowns wouldn't know a hard days work or stress if it smacked you in the face You've got about as much stress as a gambling addict.

America doesn't produce anything anymore...........everyone has their hand in the next guys pocket. Yeah sure hide behind the guise of capitalism.


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 08:52 AM by sadchild01
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yep, higher up need champagne,caviar etc . after they are superior and usa is capitalist , so how dare encourage socialism?


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 09:01 AM by j2000
reply to post by S4murai



I can work really hard on a slot machine too!

How the hell people let this crap keep going on is beyond me.

Take my 401k and play with it all day, trading nothing but paper backed by nothing.
If you guys want to do what you do, you should have to pay up front 100% instead of 10%. And it should be for real products and commodities, not the future of something that does not exist yet.

You want to buy a future of something? Then you should have to wait until it is real and in a warehouse to sell it.
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