reply to post by Norio Hayakawa
Ahh, religion and aliens. What a thorny issue. Both elicit extreme responses as well as intellectual argument. Both, in their own ways, promise
salvation. Both are at the forefront of most people’s thoughts. Don’t believe me? Ask anyone about either subject and I guarantee they’ll have
an opinion, educated or not. The two are interlinked inextricably.
We can blame the various UFO religions – Raelians, GFL, Ashtar Command etc. - for encouraging all of this hooha but, at the end of the day, we have
to realise that it is a very human
need to compartmentalize and define the unknown – even if that definition becomes a fantastical mythology
- that has created these belief systems. And that applies to religion too.
We, as a species, have
to understand something that we have yet to gain real knowledge of, therefore will create apposite explanations around
the meager information we actually have. And we all know that that practice can lead to control. This also applies to the scientific world. It has to
be acknowledged firstly that scientists do work on highly educated projections based on empirical evidence and research that inevitably produces
corroborating results, however, how much of the scientific world that we accept as lore is still
based on “theories”? Erudite and
sophisticated hypothesizing it may be, but a lot of science is still conjectural at the end of the day.
Erudite conjecture can easily convince the lazy mind.
Look at supposed UFO “insiders”, those with contacts in the “government” etc.; can they all
have the truth (or even a part of it) at
their disposal, or is it just a few? And if it’s just a few, what are the others doing spouting this alleged “knowledge”? They’re doing the
same thing our ancient ancestors did when the more eloquent (and ambitious) amongst their tribes concocted stories to explain what in all probability
were very real events (even if they were other people’s). As they were the ones to come forward with an explanation – preferably a magical one -
they became lauded and respected and their continuing stories were venerated by the masses. Some of those who told those stories may well have had
first hand experience of UFOs and, in their eyes (and self-serving logic), that made them an instant authority on the subject.
And the same applies today; many UFO witnesses on ATS will defend their own opinions as to what UFOs actually are, often accepting other people’s
explanations as correct when those explanations are completely unproven, or generating their own mythology, all after only seeing
to comprehend what we don’t understand no matter what, even at the expense of seeking and finding the truth. And when it comes to
mystical lights in the sky or superhuman beings, we get all spiritual because we are conditioned
The bottom line is that we all need to look beyond our linear thinking and not be enslaved by the so-called empirical science and its
methodology. We need to depart from the physical, nuts-and-bolts concept of ufology.
Very true, but not at the dangerous expense of starting to think along the lines of possible non-corporeal phenomena potentially being divine, as
until we know
what they are, we are simply guessing as to the form of their existence. And against what do we categorize divine? Us assuming
the cargo-cult mentality of meeting a civilization that has at its disposal technology we would consider supernatural and assuming they are gods is
foolhardy and perilous.
I do not mind the mainstream categorizing ufology as "pseudo-science". Moreover, what is more truly amazing is that the study of
"dimensions", "parallel dimensions", "ultra-dimensionalities", etc. are part of quantum physics.
Therefore, surprisingly enough, there is a fine line between "pseudo-science" and "dimensional" studies.
I do mind the attitude of the mainstream. It annoys me, but I fully understand why that attitude prevails. It’s because of the UFO fringe. And
whilst UFO religions zealously hook onto real scientific speculation and discovery and promote it as not only justification for their beliefs, but
corroboration, then real ufology will be in their shade.
And for those who may well think that science is
confirming the claims of UFO faiths, consider this; humans have fabulous
The more we ponder a subject, the more we can develop it. Was Arthur C. Clark a prophet, or a darn good writer?
Finally, on a strange note, if a full UFO Disclosure really were to be made, it would have to be made either by the alleged UFO entities
themselves or by the government, or possibly even together.
And whose government would that be? What if the Iranian
government suddenly broadcast an outdoor news conference, complete with UFOs hanging
above the crowds and emissaries from the Pleiades standing next to Abadinejhad?
What would the western – read Christian
– world think about that? Aliens choosing
an Islamic country to announce its presence. And
what if the roles were reversed? Aliens shaking hands with Obama? How would Islam, Judaism, Hinduism etc. cope with that?
You say that:
Personally I believe that the day that happens (whichever one will come out first to disclose) many people will feel that it will be one of the
greatest days in earth's history.
On the other hand, some other people may feel that it will be the beginning of the end of the system of things in an ominous way.
And I agree, in part. What “they” will have to do is be completely, unequivocally and undeniably impartial otherwise this world will be thrown
into turmoil like we’ve never seen.
We are already divided precipitously by religion, using it – an ideology intended to explain the mysteries of life - as an excuse to deal death.
What we don’t need are superior beings siding – or being seen to side with - one of our cargo-cults and making the whole thing worse.
Especially if “they” instigated these cults by appearing to our ancestors in the first place.