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Heavy infant in Grand Junction denied health insurance

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posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 07:31 AM

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
Wow, I am appalled by some of the comments on this topic. It seems this world is full of heartless, emotionless, and careless people, and most of them have louder mouths then their opposites.

It's fantastic to see someone so full of heart and empathy.

And being so warm and kind, you will have no issue *paying* for this child's medical bills then? If you contact the publisher of the article saying you'd like to pay for his bills, I'm sure they'd put you through to the child's parents so you can pay.

It's so fantastic there's so many people will to help out!

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 07:31 AM
reply to post by whatukno

Is not going to be public Option on the bill that will be voted today the public option scam was nothing but a way for the government to keep the people fighting about socialized health care and oblivious of the crap that they are going to push us into.

Is not going to be savings on private insurance coverage and we will be forced to pay or else.

The bill does not include a government-run "public" insurance option backed by Obama and liberal Democrats as a way to create competition for insurers. Republican critics say that approach would undermine the private insurance industry.

This means that we will be stuck with private insurance premiums that eventually will still be too costly to afford and on top of that it will be mandatory or else and by the time people realized the scam behind the health care reform is going to be too late.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 07:40 AM
The funniest part of this whole thing is people actually think the bill the Democrats are going to pass will address this poor fat infant!! When in fact it has not tort reform whatsoever and is just there to force all Americans to buy insurance or get fined.

Again, for those with short attention span:

They have toyed with tort reform but in reality no politician will pass this because they all get their hands greased by big pharma.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 07:48 AM
I guess they can consider it a "pre-existing" condition. Of course there are many medical syndromes which can cause a baby to be too large.
They have a biological base, and some can be treated.

For the rest of you: Keep your dollar. This is probably what would come out of your paycheck, if anything. Leave the poor spattered on the windshield of a car after a crash. Who cares? Go treat yourself to a pack of gum with that dollar you saved.

You blow this completely out of proportion as though you will be in poverty after all this deductions come out of your check. It's total bull. And some of you have made it a career to go to every thread and spew this manipulation and propagandized crap ad nauseum.

I wish I could pay your dollar for you. I truely would. One hundred dollars? No. I couldn't. but the small amount that will ACTUALLY be called for will scarcely be noticeable. But that's not the issue? You just want to maintain your status? Oh, yes. You are so much better than everybody else. You look after yourself. You work. You are fabulous.

And please don't come back here with a bunch of links that lead to a bunch of propagandized crap from people who think like you. It's meaningless to me. MEANINGLESS. So spare yourself the effort. By this time you've posted them all anyway and look like a broken record that is, bye the bye, very, very unattractive.

....Unless of course, you see a fresh brain on this thread you might be able to wash anew with all your contempt and disdain. Parading yourselves around as though you are on some crusade to save the country. I'm tempted to use the vomit button.

When my life is over, I won't have to be the one to look back on it and know I spent my time championing selfishness and closed mindedness.

So, hurrah for you. You are doing a great job.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 07:59 AM
here-in lies the problem of private run health care insurance.

If they can't make money off of you, tough luck.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 08:03 AM
reply to post by exposethosesecrets

Agreed. My question is WHY do we even need health insurance companies? Get rid of the middleman!

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 08:10 AM
Wow denying a BABY insurance and calling the baby fat and obese, this country has stooped to a new low!! My friends little girl was just about this baby's size when she was 4 months and she was born weighing about 9lbs, just shy of 10lbs. She is now almost 4 and is the skinniest little thing you would ever see. We all laugh about she was so big as a baby and now she is so tiny. Nothing changed in her eating habits she grew up a little and lost some baby fat, that we all had as a baby!! When my friend took her to doctors they TOO said she was overweight and should be on a diet. I was in the doctors office when the Dr. said this and I had to bite my tongue! A 4mth old doesnt need to be on a diet..My friend fed her daughter just like she did with her other children, she wasnt over fed or given junk or anything...She was just a big baby!! My gawd my cousin was almost 15LBS at BIRTH and he is over 6ft tall now and slim. What in the world do these insurance companies think honestly? How do they SLEEP at night?! That baby deserves health insurance just like everyone else regardless of weight or anything! Its just a big baby!

Sorry but this baby is adorable!!

[edit on 10/13/2009 by mblahnikluver]

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 08:13 AM
Look at you all, protesting that you pay your masters to take care of you!

Here is a dollar, master! Take care of my baby!

Here is my INSURANCE payment, MASTER! Take care of ME. HELP ME, MASTER!

Master! I beg of you! Let me pay you 250% more than you will ever give me back master, lest you cut me off of your teet!


Sheeple if I've ever seen them!

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 08:19 AM
There is an update to this story.


Everyone is so quick to jump on the insurance company. It was clearly a mistake with one of their algorithms. They have fixed their policy and the baby now has coverage. It wasn't some big conspiracy to deny coverage to children. It wasn't TPTB flexing their muscle. It was a mistake, plain and simple.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 08:28 AM
Actually now that the private insurance is complaining about been forced to take about 40,000 million more people with many pre existing conditions now their premium packages will be manipulated for cost efficiency.

So for all of those that Obama has been promising that they will keep their existing packages are going to be waken up to a big surprised.

Private insurance doesn't do anything for free and neither are in the business of losing money, like somebody already posted.

So now when the premiums start to become too expensive for the businesses to offer to their employees the employers are going to cut cost with cheaper insurance premiums, that means less coverage and if you want more you have to buy it on the side.

The littler adorable chubby baby (by the way that is how the babies here in the south look like and I have never heard anybody complaining that their babies has been left without care) will have insurance because the parents will be forced to buy it but it will cost them more.

Wake up America before reality hits you in your rear end and is going to be painful.

All the promises are nothing but that promises, the reality of the situation is a bit different.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 08:46 AM
reply to post by TheOracle

Yeah, at 4 months this might be a bit zealous on behalf of the insurance company. However, I've seen PLENTY of older toddlers/children that are clearly obese and by comparing them to their parents, it is the parents fault and insurance companies should have the right to determine who is insurable.

If you have too many auto accidents, your insurance company can cancel you for being too high risk, right? Why can't they make the same judgements comcerning health? Obesity kills and is straining our current helath care system.

You want to help reform health care, get people healthy. There are far too many excessively overweight/obese individuals in this country who have no hereditary conditions that cause them to be that way. They simply put too much junk in their bodies or have chosen a lifestyle that causes them to be that way.

These same people then have tremendous amounts of heath problems (diabetes, heart problems, etc..) that you and I have to help pay for since many of them either have too little or no insurance, driving the costs up for everyone else.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 10:00 AM
For heaven's sake, why do so many of you think that just because this little one is fat as a butterball that he will remain that way. All he does is eat, sleep, sh*t - nothing to burn off his caloric intake. When he starts crawling and walking, he will mostly likely loose a lot of that weight.

One of my sis's grandkids weighed 10.5 lbs at birth and at four months was bigger than this little one. By the time he was two, he was skinny as a rail.

Her newest grand is 4 months old and weighs 20 lbs. She's fat as a butterball but so was her sister - who is rail thin now at 4.

Some babies are just fat and most of them slim down when they starting doing something other than sleep, eat, and mess their diapers!

To think that just because this little one is fat now that he will be obese when he gets older is just absurd.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 10:13 AM

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
Wow, I am appalled by some of the comments on this topic. It seems this world is full of heartless, emotionless, and careless people, and most of them have louder mouths then their opposites.

Denying an obese kid insurance because he is "high risk" is equivalent to a doctor denying to defibrillate someone who had a heart attack because he is "high risk" of having another heart attack, so there is no point, and it's a waste of resources to save his life.

Since that is the case, you might as well get rid of all fire departments and fire fighters because a house that is on fire is "high risk" and there is no point in wasting money to try to save it.

I understand that insurance companies loose money on "high risk" people, but I don't understand why we don't have a system that will still help these people. If health care reform will help people like in the O.P. then I am all for it.

[edit on 13-10-2009 by ALLis0NE]

I agree with the other poster. Since you think it's such a great idea, please contact the family and have them deduct a portion of YOUR wages every paycheck so you can help their child maintain insurance.

Thank you.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 10:18 AM
That little kid looks like he has a condition called "MOMO Syndrome" ( Macrosomia (excessive birth weight), Obesity, Macrocephaly (excessive head size) and Ocular abnormalities).

It's EXTREMELY rare. So rare that only FOUR cases have been diagnosed in the world so far.

Here's an image of Archie Thompson, one of the four confirmed cases:

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 10:22 AM

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
Denying an obese kid insurance because he is "high risk" is equivalent to a doctor denying to defibrillate someone who had a heart attack because he is "high risk" of having another heart attack, so there is no point, and it's a waste of resources to save his life.

The baby does have insurance now. And, no, no, no, no, the comparison between insurance companies and physicians in your example is utterly off-base. That statement is nothing more than your emotions coming into play making false representations about the duties of physicians.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 10:23 AM
He looks perfect. Healthy, lovely, perfect.

Breastfed babies who are tubby do not grow into fat adults.

The type of fat that a breastfed baby has is different than that of a food or formula baby.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 10:32 AM
reply to post by ladyinwaiting

I'd appreciate it if you would not steal the words out of my mouth! lol I am wondering how much some of these people get paid to sit on boards and write propaganda all day.

What's to say here? Obamas' propaganda machine looks to be very thorough. Side with Obama and live! So now black is white; and white is black. I call Racist! Now, when you oppose propaganda such as OP, you are a racist domestic terrorist!

Of course the babys' needs should not be neglected.. Does that make the diety, Obamas' plan acceptable?

It's not that health care should not be checked, it's in what way it is checked.. None of Obamas' movements are to correctly put anything in check. I'm afraid we are seeing our last president.

No consequencE..

Thank you.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 10:52 AM
I think the entire reason why health insurance will never be reformed to any appreciable degree can be found in this thread. It's a combination of three things; the private insurance companies themselves, an inept administration who's lack of foresight will produce "reform" legislation that will do nothing but further bankrupt already cash-strapped families, and the very people on here who are so selfish they've no sense of community or for that matter, the notion that as Americans we should look out for the least among us. Condemn a perfectly healthy child to death because you don't want one red cent to go for his care? What you call socialism I call moral character and your lack of it makes me sick - yet another reason why I fear this country is not long for this world. It has very little to do with external influences, it has everything to with the "I'm just fine so who cares about you?" mindset that lets pure selfishness take the place of basic human empathy.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 11:01 AM

What a cruel screwed up world this place is becoming. Yuk.

posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 11:01 AM
All scrapping and spitting at each other over nothing.

The health care we have doesn't need to be reformed. The payment methods do. The present insurance system will deny any claim they can in the name of profit. It is unacceptable.

The healthcare system that the administration wants to implement will add red tape, restrictions, massive cost and deny more people treatment based on some political boards rulings of who has enough 'human value' to qualify for treatments and they will still have the same restrictions that we presently have under the insurance companies. It is unacceptable.

Why fight health care "reform" ?

Because it is not reform. It is simply retrenchment and will dig us all deeper.

The insurance company got their facts straight and the baby will now get health care. With the "reformed" health care there would be months of red tape and paperwork to get this kids situation re-evaluated (if it ever was allowed to be appealed at all).

It's sad that we have to fight tooth and nail to hold onto a lousy system because the powers that be are intent on making it many times worse.

The whole country is going in the wrong direction. We should be fighting to remove red tape and restrictions and reduce costs, not fighting to make the health industry into a new military industrial complex.

You think you hate war? Wait until the left gets what it wants and turns our healthcare system into a clone of our military industrial complex.

Then we all will be in the crosshairs, including cute chubby little babies.

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