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posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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Google Video Link (24 minutes) The Holographic Mind

The man who made this video from his book, was arrested by the authorities in his country because it unleashes truth that they do not want the public to know about the way the universe and how our senses truly perceive things in a holographic perspective.

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posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 09:29 PM
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Wow! That was really interesting and mind-expanding. Thanks for sharing.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 09:52 PM
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An interesting and well-made film. I can't imagine why someone would be arrested for making this film (which is really just a religious discussion, mostly Islamic in perspective, or so it appears.)

Here is a set of notes I typed hastily into a document while I viewed the video.

* Even though we see light, the inside of our skull is completely dark. The brain exists in darkness.

* Our brains do not confront or attach to the original image, but merely a copy of instances that exist outside of us.

* Everything we see that is "physical" and "matter" is actually just electrical signals in our brain.

* The image of a bird flying in the air is just an image – it exists only in our brain in the form of electrical signals.

* As you read this, you are not really in the room with a computer. The room and computer are actually within you.

* Since we cannot reach the outside world, how do we know that the world actually exists?

* It is a deception that the world actually exists. We are living in a dream world.

* When we awake from a dream, there is no reason to believe we are not "awakening" to a parent dream, which we happen to call "reality".

* Matter consists completely of perceptions by the human soul. All matter is an illusion, with only the soul actually existing.

* Who made the illusion? A creator, which controls and dominates everything.

* The creator / creating force, can be given a name, such as "Allah".

Well done, but highly arguable, and there are many equally valid variations. Also, I think this was all illustrated and explained exceptionally well in the movie "The Matrix" (and I mean the good movie -- the first one.)

The last two points kind of dart to a mouse hole, running out-of-reach at the very last minute.

Edit: Yeah, I know, everyone is a critic.

[edit on 12-10-2009 by Axial Leader]



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 09:53 PM
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It beats the heck out of creationism "science", but it's still a commercial for Allah. I think all religions have a bit of truth, so it's not that I'm knocking it being a commercial for Allah, but it's kind of jarring at the end when the guy starts preaching. Seemed contrived to me. There are better vids to watch on the topic of perception. Jill Bolte-Taylor lecture on Ted for example.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 10:05 PM
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Really interesting!!

Until it got to Allah. lol



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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Just one more note -- after thinking about this in detail, with as liberal and generous an eye as possible -- this film actually seems to encourage a type of dangerous delusion and paranoia.

For example, if you read my previous list, you can see that a perfect converse to most of these arguments exists, and it is really the converse which is true.

For example, contrast below with my previous bullet list.

* The image of a bird flying in the air is MORE than an image – it exists in our brain because it actually exists in the physical universe. That is why we percieve it.

* It is a deception that the world DOES NOT actually exists. We are living in a physical world with other physical beings and things that matter. There is more than yourself in the Universe. There are other things besides just YOU.

* Matter IS MORE than perceptions of the soul. Matter is not just an illusion. It actually exists -- whether a soul percieves it or not.

* etc.

So the above facts, contradicting my previous list (pulled from the video), are really what I believe.

My point (and I don't mean to be offensive) is this video seems like the kind of thing that you would drill into an Islamic suicide bomber, before a mission:

"Serve Allah. Nobody is hurt -- everything is an illusion created by Allah -- etc."

So I am radically changing my opinion on this video, and labeling as a dangerous message if really taken seriously. Perhaps this is the reason why the film maker was imprisoned, as stated in the OP? Because this type of video is used to recruit and indoctrinate Islamic suicide bombers?

Perhaps that is a stretch. I don't know. I am just attempting to put all the pieces together.

Edit: From what I know about Islam (not much) this doesn't even really reflect Islamic thought that well.

[edit on 12-10-2009 by Axial Leader]



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by doped00
Really interesting!!

Until it got to Allah. lol


i posted this video a while back after finding it on google. I think your reading to much into the word allah.


is the standard Arabic word for God.[1] While the term is best known in the West for its use by Muslims as a reference to God, it is used by Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, in reference to "God".[1][2][3] The term was also used by pagan Meccans as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity in pre-Islamic Arabia.[4]

The concepts associated with the term Allah (as a deity) differ among the traditions. In pre-Islamic Arabia amongst pagan Arabs, Allah was not considered the sole divinity, having associates and companions, sons and daughters - a concept which Islam thoroughly and resolutely abrogated. In Islam, the name Allah is the supreme and all-comprehensive divine name. All other divine names are believed to refer back to Allah.[5] Allah is unique, the only Deity, creator of the universe and omnipotent.[1][2] Arab Christians today use terms such as Allāh al-ʼAb ( الله الأب, "God the Father") to distinguish their usage from Muslim usage.[6] There are both similarities and differences between the concept of God as portrayed in the Qur'an and the Hebrew Bible


en.wikipedia.org...

its just a standard word for a greater being. . . being a single god mind or god is irrelevant. Whats important is that you realize that theres more than just what you see. . . much more.

Allah is just being used as a kind of generic term for the whole something greater than the just the self and the ego.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 11:12 PM
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reply to post by constantwonder
 


Ah ok.

Clears that up. Thanks.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by Axial Leader
From what I know about Islam (not much) this doesn't even really reflect Islamic thought that well.


Further research seems to indicate that statement is true. The ideas in this video are not mainstream Islamic thought.

www.harunyahya.com...

This video appears to reflect the beliefs of a somewhat mystical branch of Islam, whose practice is discouraged, perhaps prohibited. I can't find any connection with suicide bombers, terrorism. So that previous speculation may be out-of-line, not sure.

However, I see a definite possible connection between denying the importance of "physical", and committing / permitting physical atrocities on your fellow man.

If you think the physical world does not exist, and that existence is only electrical signals and images in your brain, then it is probably better that you don't drive an automobile. Please.

[edit on 12-10-2009 by Axial Leader]



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