The Conspiracy of American Political Peril, page 6
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reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 07:15 AM by elfie
reply to post by SkepticOverlord


As ever, a reasonable and considered approach. Since the decision is left to each member whether to view the section, or not, it just makes sense. Thank you.


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 07:27 AM by seataka
Originally posted by JohnD
This is a great (and necessary) post. Partisan politics can be found in forums, blogs and websites throughout the world wide web. I have not made a lot of posts on this site but I lurk (i.e. READ) because I like to believe that there are people other than myself that are open to real critical thinking. I want to LEARN. Anybody can [female dog] and moan. As I get older, I grow weary of this approach because I believe that there is a better way. I want to study as much about religion, history and philosophy as I can to get insight on how I may be part of a solution instead of part of a problem.

I could go on and on about who I am and what I believe, but to keep it short and sweet, these are my personal realizations (and I respect yours if they are different as long we insist on not imposing upon each other's will:


  • I am Christian and believe there is a God (though I was once EXTREMELY doubtful)
  • After wrestling with both liberal and conservative political ideology I am convinced that these are the teams created by an oligarchy designed specifically to keep us divided and dependent.
  • I strive every day to pray for peace and the strength to treat all with compassion and understanding, especially those who would be my enemies.


We are getting so close to a world that can exist without a government and this idea alone is what scares the crap out of the world political machine. Heaven forbid they may have to go out and get real jobs.

S and F... SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO SAY IT AND YOU DID! KUDOS!


well said...

and I like your outline.

In my 1861 unabridged webster's dictionary, definition #2 for APOCALYPSE is "when all is revealed" -

Why would the end of secrecy be considered an apocalypse?

perhaps because..

"Secrets are the mortar binding bricks as lies together into prisons for the mind"

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And yes partisan... Us vs them, dem vs gop, type thinking is being actively encouraged. Mental manipulation works - for those who would like to innoculate themselves from being manipulated, I would suggest that you read a psychiatrist named Joost Meerloo LINK to "DELUSION AND MASS DELUSION"

If we were to heal the divisions amongst us, we must pursue all discussion with intent to determine what the truth is. and we might even heal some of the shills sent to disrupt !

All discussion provides mutual benefit when pursued to determined what is the truth,
NOT who is "right".

Rightness or wrongness means nothing in a cell at Gitmo.

TPTB want racial hatred, they want religious hatred, they want nations despising other nations as it raises arms sales, and they want ignorance. They seek apathy. Those ignorants who are not easily manipulated by shrill lies.. are often turned into supporters by choreographed disaster theatricals... it has been this way since the beginning of time.

There is enough on this planet to provide for everyone's needs but there will never be enough to satisfy greed.

If you want justice, seek the truth.
If you want the truth
follow the money.

"In an era of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" Orwell 1984"

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reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 08:05 AM by Wimbly
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Why not take off your 'hate Obama' specs and read through the thread.


I don't hate Obama. I am a journalist and I do plan on being critical of him, just like I was Bush. I find it disturbing that people in my country are apparently convincing themselves that suppression of dissent is OK (when you're a democrat). Its even more disturbing that people from other countries are actually cheering this on.

Why are critical looks at the current ruling government in the US so threatening to you?

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
(shaking head in disbelief)


Apparently there is a category of people who either do not read what I wrote, or see different words than what I typed.


Several people have laid out a convincing case that you're attempting to censor people critical of Obama and you've ignored all of them. You cant seem to explain what your criteria for "political hate" is and you're moving all kinds of threads that are completely factual and tough on the media/Democrats.

Also, is it just a coincidence that this move coincided with the White House lashing out at their critics in the media?

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reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 08:09 AM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by Wimbly
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Why not take off your 'hate Obama' specs and read through the thread.


I don't hate Obama. I am a journalist and I do plan on being critical of him, just like I was Bush. I find it disturbing that people in my country are apparently convincing themselves that suppression of dissent is OK (when you're a democrat). Its even more disturbing that people from other countries are actually cheering this on.

Why is it that critical looks at the current ruling government in the US are so threatening to you?


Sorry...I'd forget about the journalism if your reportage is as slanted as your commentary on these pages. Again....read the thread objectively, including SO's preamble.

But, I used to have a signature on this site that read...“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.”

...and so it goes


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 08:15 AM by Wimbly
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


So, this isn't political hated? Notice that when you're of a certain political persuasion, your insults are not only tolerated but given stars! Thanks for proving my point for me.

You still haven't answered any of my questions:

1. Why is a Canadian so concerned with politics in the US?
2. What exactly constitutes "political hatred"

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reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 08:15 AM by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Are you a proponent of Obama healthcare reform?

Healthcare reform is desperately needed. It's broken. It's prohibitively expensive for small businesses and self-employed. There is no guarantee that if you have it now, it will pay for your bills.

As for Obama, he's a child of a system I abhor. I see him as no different than those before him.



Knowing the fact that even when Clinton was in office...

You seem to be missing the fact that these issues have long since transcended whichever artificial ideological flavor occupied the White House.



So instead it is better just to be robots, and to accept, and agree only with the topics you find acceptable? Is that what you are saying?

Someone else who seems unable to read what I've written, or sees different words than what I typed.

There is no limitation on what topics may be presented... and "Obama Bashing" is just allowed, it's whole-heartedly encouraged.



What you just did is label anyone who posts such topics, as "diseases, and a plague in the forums."

More evidence that perhaps when you see what I've typed, different words form in your head?

What I've expressed is; those who focus on hating the "other side" at the expense of focusing on issues are nothing more than tools of the corrupted system.




Does the motto "Deny Ignorace" means to suppress, and separate those who do not agree with the policies being presented by the Obama administration?

There's little point in conversing with you if you refuse to actually read what I write.


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 08:19 AM by Wimbly
reply to post by SkepticOverlord


What I've expressed is; those who focus on hating the "other side" at the expense of focusing on issues are nothing more than tools of the corrupted system.

What you're apparently missing is that you're doing that very thing right now. By labeling dissent you don't agree with "political hatred" and sending it to a dust bin forum, you're focusing your hate on "the other side" and the expense of debating the issue at hand.

Again, your words and actions coincide perfectly with the White House's assault on their critics. Something thats not happened since Nixon.

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reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 08:21 AM by Wimbly
reply to post by SkepticOverlord


If you prefer to insult and spew anger toward those not of your ideological persuasion, then please find another web site to vent your desires.


How is posting a thread about media lies, misinformation or pointing out Obama's own words "spewing anger"? Why cant you lay out what exactly constitutes "political hatred"? Going based solely on what you've moved to this forum, its very confusing. Others have posted threads asking you what makes them hateful and you've ignored it. If you're on such solid ground, why cant you answer these simple questions?



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