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reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 10:27 PM by WTFover
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Not bashing, but I would like to ask you a serious question. Without firearms, how do you propose to protect yourself from a tyrannical government stripping you of your right to free speech, your right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, your right to a trial by jury, etc?


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 11:34 PM by Djdoubt03
Originally posted by WTFover
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post by Djdoubt03



Not bashing, but I would like to ask you a serious question. Without firearms, how do you propose to protect yourself from a tyrannical government stripping you of your right to free speech, your right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, your right to a trial by jury, etc?


Well I don't own a gun now and I never will.
Doesn't matter, if the gov wants to strip me of the right to free speech, your right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, your right to a trial by jury, etc, they are going to do it anyway.

My one gun is not going to to do much against 10-15 military or police personnel aside from me taking out a few before my brains are splattered on the wall from a well trained sharp shooter.


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 08:22 AM by Asktheanimals
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I was just wondering what your reasoning is for thinking that we should ban all firearms? I'm all ears....


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 08:30 AM by getreadyalready
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Schwarzenegger is a waste of DNA


Political DNA maybe, but he has Maria for that.

He is certainly no waste of DNA, I would be happy to splice a little of his into mine! He is a physical speciman, and bodybuilders are still trying to match the results that he got 20-30 years ago!!

For our really paranoid CS.....you do realize Maria Shriver is a Kennedy, and an elite, and if you believe in TPTB or the NWO, then she is in direct lineage to them, and has plenty of reasons to do a little whisper and tickle and get Arnold to ban all the weapons!!


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 08:55 AM by wylekat
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Really, anything and everything can be used as a weapon except for maybe paper and feathers


Paper soaked in resin or even superglue can be made into points for arrows- feathers as stabilizers for said arrows, and depending on the feather, the quill can be sharpened and used as a stabbing weapon.


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 03:37 PM by Jimmy1880
Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Schwarzenegger signs ammunition sales bill


www.redding.com
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today signed into law a bill that requires buyers of handgun ammunition to leave thumbprints and detailed personal information with registered ammo sellers, as well as put restrictions on online bullet sales.
(visit the link for the full news article)



Good on you Arnold, regulation in arms is never a bad thing! We are considerate on what countries we sell arms too so why not give the same considerations to what customers we sell too domestically.

And to all the people who scream constitution; you should have yelled just as loud when the Patriot act was pushed through.

Only big business looses out with tighter gun controls, If they weren't loosing out then the corporations wouldn't be pushing their save the constitution cries on the gun loving public.


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 03:45 PM by Miraj
reply to post by Jimmy1880



We did scream about the constitution, but we were called terrorists.

See why we want to own guns?


reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 07:19 PM by WTFover
reply to post by Djdoubt03



My one gun is not going to to do much against 10-15 military or police personnel...


True, but you are looking at that in entirely the wrong way. Your one with those of the other roughly 52,000,000 (yeah 52 million) gun owners is exactly what TPTB fear. That is somewhere around 250 to 300 million privately owned firearms.

However, you are probably right to assume that your rights are at greater risk, considering your lack of solidarity with those who wish to protect them.


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 12:23 PM by justinsweatt
Originally posted by Jimmy1880
Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Schwarzenegger signs ammunition sales bill


www.redding.com
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today signed into law a bill that requires buyers of handgun ammunition to leave thumbprints and detailed personal information with registered ammo sellers, as well as put restrictions on online bullet sales.
(visit the link for the full news article)



Good on you Arnold, regulation in arms is never a bad thing! We are considerate on what countries we sell arms too so why not give the same considerations to what customers we sell too domestically.

And to all the people who scream constitution; you should have yelled just as loud when the Patriot act was pushed through.

Only big business looses out with tighter gun controls, If they weren't loosing out then the corporations wouldn't be pushing their save the constitution cries on the gun loving public.


I was one of those that screamed against the patriot act and will continue to do so. Just because we have this bogus legislation now, doesn't mean that it can't be struck down at a later date. And while it's nice to be picky about what countries we sell our arms too, which we aren't by the way, but in your perfect world I guess this seems "acceptable". However, we do have a thing here called the 4th and 5th Amendment and our citizens have a right to not be investigated before committing a criminal offense. We are not Iran, we are citizens of this country that have rights. If you don't want to accept those rights anymore, than I suggest you start the process of removing the Constitution and passing another one. And simply throwing your hands up saying "well we have the patriot act so this is okay" really is NOT okay and is a terrible attitude to have, in my opinion. You do yourself a disservice and your neighbor by continuing to shill for those that are stripping the rights of citizens. Your reasoning also pretty much makes the parable given of the guy that says "hey at least it isn't me" over and over after they grab his neighbors for various "offenses" and then you scream when they come for you.

It's just disappointing that there are people here in this country that would like to treat there neighbors as criminals under the guise of "safety".
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