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Schwarzenegger signs ammunition sales bill

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posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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Schwarzenegger signs ammunition sales bill


www.redding.com

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today signed into law a bill that requires buyers of handgun ammunition to leave thumbprints and detailed personal information with registered ammo sellers, as well as put restrictions on online bullet sales.

“Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers,” Schwarzenegger said in a letter explaining his decision.

The new restrictions will take effect Feb. 1, 2011.

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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Wow this is definitely a slippery slope for controlling the right to bear arms. A lot of these people want to register weapons. Now they will register ammo as well. They want to keep track of who buys what ammo now? So when they come for the guns they will know who has what ammo? So now you hide back one of your guns, they will know that you bought ammo for any of the guns they already confiscated and get you for holding back on the guns. This is messed up.

www.redding.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:14 PM
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useless in my opinion

most of the murders and shootings that occur in the streets are not from store-bought arms or ammunition anyhow, so what will this solve?

even a shovel is a weapon, should they leave thumbprints for that purchase too? What about a pencil, someone can get stabbed in the eye.

Really, anything and everything can be used as a weapon except for maybe paper and feathers



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:16 PM
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I FORESEE THAT AMMO will have a sharp increase in sales to callifornia from now till feb 2011. but what do i know. i just hope all the ammo makers don't ship all there production in 2010 to cali because of guaranteed sales you know it won't be long before other idiot states jump on cali coatails



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:17 PM
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Some Terminator.

I would THINK that California has much bigger problems than ammunition.

Just think.

Soon, you can load up your car with pistol ammo, drive to California, and make really good money.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Really, anything and everything can be used as a weapon except for maybe paper and feathers


You can always tickle someone with the feather and give their smile a papercut!

Ouch


Personally when it comes to civil war, martial law or revolutions etc. The sad thing is that I think that what will come from any of these situations is one thing, slaughter. Its happening the world over so theres no reason it will not happen on home ground. Especially when people dont have defences, my country banned guns outright (UK) and I do not think it will be long before this happens in the US.




posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:20 PM
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Well. I'd agree with you (well I do) but this is California we're talking about.

California has already seriously restricted access to firearms and is only beaten by perhaps New York.

It is rather pointless in my opinion. I very highly doubt that a criminal will purchase his rounds from a store. There is too much of an ability to track such things.

It is much easier, and very viable to have someone load rounds for them.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:22 PM
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Wow... you mean it's not just those mean old nasty left wing commie socialist Democrats working to undermine your second amendment rights? Whodda thunk?



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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Big surprise here, just one more bonehead move by an inept and moronic state government. And they wonder why all the tax revenue moved out of the state years ago.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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I think heroine, crack, and dust are also against the law in California.

But no one seems to have any problem getting any.

The only people it hurts are those who abide by the law.

The very ones that are leaving California already, just can't get out fast enough.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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I think the US is actually protected from gun bans, not due to rights but due to profits.

The US has a huge military industrial complex, and these companies have lobbies. These people make a lot of money from citizen buyers, buying their new rifles, magazines, hand guns, ammunition, accessories.

And at this moment their business' are absolutely booming. They can't keep guns or ammunition supplied.

One of the few times we benefit from corruption.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by Miraj
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I think the US is actually protected from gun bans, not due to rights but due to profits.

The US has a huge military industrial complex, and these companies have lobbies. These people make a lot of money from citizen buyers, buying their new rifles, magazines, hand guns, ammunition, accessories.

And at this moment their business' are absolutely booming. They can't keep guns or ammunition supplied.

One of the few times we benefit from corruption.


You might be correct.

I just do not think whats going on is about money, for that reason anything can happen and will.




posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by jtma508
Wow... you mean it's not just those mean old nasty left wing commie socialist Democrats working to undermine your second amendment rights? Whodda thunk?


Nope. There's some RINOs in on it too. I submit exhibit Z that neocons are really just Democrats in camouflage.

And folks tell me I'm nuts when I say there isn't any difference at all in the two major parties.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:27 PM
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Well if they can't remove your firearms, they will remove your ammunition. How sly of them huh?

In any case this is just going to lead to more problems, more paperwork and more wasted taxpayer money.

California can't afford to put these sort of measures into place, not in our current situation and probably not in 2011 either.

I bet you Obama keeps his hands clean of this one
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~Keeper



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:37 PM
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So, my thumbprint goes down for 1000 rounds of 7.62 and 500 rounds of .45 acp..........and the same goes for 10,000 other people like me this week. Then, somebody gets shot up with these calibers of ammo.

NOW WHAT? How does this help at all?

Are they going to interview all 10,000 people that purchased that caliber this week, or the couple of million that purchased that caliber this year?

Will the Wal Marts now be doing current background and registration checks for ammo sales? If I don't pay my parking tickets, will I still be able to purchase ammo?

What about illegal aliens? California loves them, and Hispanic gangs are one of the biggest problems in the nation right now, especially California. So, will these ammo sales be cross-checked with Immigration, or Crime Databases, or Restraining Orders?

If they are going to implement new laws that restrict my liberties, how about we at least make them somewhat useful!!



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by dooper
Some Terminator.

I would THINK that California has much bigger problems than ammunition.

Just think.

Soon, you can load up your car with pistol ammo, drive to California, and make really good money.



Oh yeah. This is a great scenario for black or gray market gun and ammo dealers. Hell it is a great deal for ordinary citizens in neighboring states. Buy ammo cheaper and without paper work. Drive to Cali and sell to a private individual. He can easily resale, at a premium, to people that want to avoid paper work.

Maybe the legal gun owners will start mingling with the illegal owners to get their ammo. Could build a whole new sub culture. Imagine the stoner culture for guns. Maybe everything will work out fine.


Sadly though most illegal guns are sold already loaded. Ammo isn't as big with the petty street criminals that usually do the shooting. The guys buying 5,000 rounds of illegal ammo almost never use it. Honestly they have it "just in case." Of course I am speaking of the US and not Mexico or Rwanda.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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you frogot paper cuts, those can be deadly aswell



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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Well we know who side he's on now.....

~Were making a list

~checking it twice

~gonna find out who's

~naughty & nice

~worthless politicians ...stinking up~~ our town.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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What's wrong with Schwarzenegger today?

Schwarzenegger vetoes bill restricting insurers' ability to cancel policies of sick patients
latimesblogs.latimes.com...

I guess he knows he will NOT get the re-election or even run probably.

So I guess as far as he's concerned the only thing he has to lose is lobbyist $$$$$$$$$$$$



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 03:36 PM
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Open Terminator clip....

"ID?" says the guy behind the counter ....

Death and mayhem follow ....

I guess it makes little difference.


It does seem uncomfortably timed though..., or am I just paranoid?



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