CDC, FDA, CBC, and WHO consider homosexuality a health risk, page 2
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reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 10:37 AM by dbates
Originally posted by mikerussellus
Why all the anger?

Your allegations are as imflamatory as those you rail against.

It's called Critical Theory. It's a tried and true Marxist tactic that is often used in order to create a false sense of dis entitlement.

You see, even when one merely points out the medical disadvantages of a behavior. Even when all of the world's major health organizations and people with the highest degrees in science point out the health risks involved in a behavior. Even after the Center for Disease Control black-lists a group of people as ineligible to donate blood. After all of that people will still come out of the woodwork and blast your ideas as bigoted and hate mongering.

It's almost as if this were a manufactured societal problem isn't it? It's fascinating because when it comes down to actual medical science there's no contesting that homosexuality is a serious health risk to the individuals partaking in that lifestyle. Yet there's this false sense of urgency to silence all those who voice their opinions against it.



reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 10:43 AM by mikerussellus
reply to post by niteboy82



As someone stated earlier, it has been going on since 1977.

Why have there never (to my knowlege) been any issue/protest change in this regard?


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 10:47 AM by rogerstigers
Originally posted by dbates
It's almost as if this were a manufactured societal problem isn't it? It's fascinating because when it comes down to actual medical science there's no contesting that homosexuality is a serious health risk to the individuals partaking in that lifestyle. Yet there's this false sense of urgency to silence all those who voice their opinions against it.


There's a serious health risk to all those who partake in the "straight" lifestyle as well. We have all sorts of sexually based diseases out there, both physical and mental. They affect straights, gays and bi-sexuals alike. Should we just go back to the days of outlawing all sex that is not intended for reproduction?

I am not about to call you homophobic based on this one premise, that would be premature, but to twist the words of the CDC and WHO and others as a means to support an argument that is specualtive at best and does not bear out to the facts at all is far from denying ignorance and something I would not have expected to see from a Super Mod.

I have plenty of friends who are gay. Many of them are conservatives (this is Texas, after all) and some are rather old and have been gay most of their lives with NO MEDICAL ISSUES. Other acquaintances I have are straight, right-wing christian types who suffer from hepatitis (one of them) and herpes (a differant one) because all they do is watch football, drink, and screw 6 days a week and go to church on sunday to ask for forgiveness.


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 10:48 AM by mikerussellus
reply to post by dbates


Interesting. It does appear that this is a contrived issue and has no medical merit. In my case, prion detection is difficult, ergo, I can't donate. But with the advent of generalized testing, it would appear that it is the ruling bodies that have a case of homophobia.


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 10:52 AM by niteboy82
reply to post by mikerussellus


I know many people that have worked to change this and have protested it. Quite honestly though, I find there are more precious issues to discuss in the world, and even in the arena of gay rights. If a heterosexual wants to die instead of receiving blood from a homosexual, I wish them the death that they are embracing for their foolishness. Darwinism at it's best.

The topic in this thread is not whether rejecting the blood is right or wrong, though. The topic of this thread is that by inference of the OP's quotes, homosexuality itself is a problem.


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 10:59 AM by mikerussellus
reply to post by niteboy82


I took it differently. I saw it as the CDC (et al) have a problem with homosexuality. The OP was just using what is already out there to illustrate the issue.

hmmff

I'll re-read.


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 11:09 AM by rogerstigers
reply to post by dbates


If you are going to quote me, please don't deliberately take me out of context.

I specifically did NOT call you homophobic or even hateful. I merely pointed out that your argument was based on conjecture at best and that your argument does not play out against facts in the real world.

You are pointing out that you have "medical evidence", but I have yet to see you post any. I also don't see any acknowledgement from you that heterosexual sex is also "risky". I understand the point you are making, but you are not being balanced or fair about it, so it is just coming across as propaganda to push an agenda.

I personally don't care if you think that homosexuality is wrong. That's your priviledge. You can think that the clouds in the sky are God's farts, for all I care. People can believe whatever the hell they want UNTIL those beliefs start demonizing other people and making them appear to be something they aren't. That is when I take issue.

We are all humans and we all get sick and have problems. We are not special or set aside and I have not, as yet, seen anything that we humans do that the rest of the animal kingdom doesn't also do in some way. We just do more of it.



reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 11:17 AM by fomalhaut
reply to post by dbates


I have some friends who believe in an invisible man who created the world in seven days. But I digress...
Whether or not being gay is a health risk, here we are. And unless you've been toe-tapping in some stalls lately, you don't know what causes people to be gay. So, yes, these agencies do not accept blood from gay people due to inadequate facilities or cost of properly testing blood. That's it. Your point?


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 11:27 AM by Miraj
reply to post by dbates


Lets get down to it.. Since you firmly believe it's a health risk. (And um.. if I did some of those practices too, I'd say it's a health risk)

What exactly are you suggesting should be done?
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