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reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 07:49 AM by mikerussellus
reply to post by Haydn_17


I am an American now. Grew up in England, though. Would miss the British Empire. England has such a rich history. To allow it to be swallowed up in a USE senario would diminish its history.

Just my humble opinion, mind. . .


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 08:59 AM by Dermo
reply to post by chiron613


Im sorry for being blunt but you obviously know very little about the EU, how it works or how it as an entity is progressing.

Once the Lisbon treaty is ratified by all member 'states' the EU will have or will be integrating the following.. (Quietly might I add) Remind you of a country yes?

A constitutional legal framework for sovereign existence.
A president (more of a Prime Minister though & looks like its going to be Tony Blair).
A common economic policy.
A foreign office.
An elected parliament.
A common Currency.
A common market.
A freedom of movement, employment and living policy.
A Flag.
An Anthem.
A common taxation policy.
An EU police force (approx 30% of every member states police force will be converted to EU police).
A common policy for criminality.
EU embassies in foreign nations slowly replacing member state embassies.
A common defense policy.
A rapid response force of 60,000 troops EUFOR.
A 2.5 million soldier Army in the making.
A rapidly expanding "Defence" budget.
A Space Agency.
A propaganda office.
An Intelligence center.
etc etc etc etc - I could go on for hours but it would get boring.

Include 500 million people, approximately 30% of the worlds GDP and a policy of rapidly tightening the EU while strengthening its clout on the world stage, especially since the beginning of the US decline.

So that will be in 2010.. What do you think the EU is going to look like in 2025? Seeing as in the late seventies it was barely a common economic community.

All this is being done extremely quietly in order not to 'Upset' the population of the EU or its neighbours but over the next 5 years, the EU will have all of the above while at the moment, it has around a third of that.

The Lisbon treaty as I said before creates a sovereign entity out of the EU and allows for quicker integration of member states. Once it is ratified, the EU will be changing very rapidly and you will begin to hear a lot more of it.

Whether that is a good thing or not, we will have to wait and see
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