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UK - Pay Per Mile Plan - to save the Planet

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posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 05:19 AM

UK - Pay Per Mile Plan - to save the Planet

Under the controversial scheme, cars would be fitted with electronic tags and tracked either by satellite or roadside beacon. Charges would rise at times of peak congestion to around £1.50 a mile.

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(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 05:19 AM
On the day that Gordon Brown is selling the UK's roads to raise money (roads bought and paid for by the tax payer and which we will get nothing back for), a "Climate Change" group has proposed that motorists are charged up to £ 1.50 for every mile we drive (on top of rip off fuel tax and car tax)

This had better not happen!! It could potentially cost me around £ 3,000.00 per month + fuel to do my job .....far more than I earn!!

This proposal would also give them remit to chip all vehicles to know exactly where we were going / what speed etc.

We have got to do something to stop the madness#

They should be forced to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that climate change is a man made occurance before they slip further stealth taxes upon those of us in the UK.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 05:40 AM
This will never happen they could talk about it but it will never happen and another thing how is paying by the mile going to save the planet just another scam by this government to rip us off they are getting desperate now the cash has gone Tick Tock there time is almost up.


posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 05:45 AM
haha bring it on,

lets see how long it takes the people to find away of getting rid of those tags and telling them to shove it.

road tax
ect i think urmmm no more thanks. dont even touch my car.

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 05:52 AM
I always wanted to say this to England- On your bike.

I feel sorry for you guys. Imagine the cost of going on crop circle hunts or late night solstice at stonehenge, cor blimey gov.

This cracked me up though:

The report also suggested 'eco-driving' tips - such as not braking suddenly and sticking to the speed limit - should be taught in driving lessons to reduce emissions.

Never mind the red lights or pedestrians, we need to be green.

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 05:55 AM
Have you ever heard of duel use? Before long you might just wake up in a totalitarian system of government. Every thing has duel use. Take a simple fence for example. It can be used for keeping people out or keeping people in. Your new word for today is duel use.

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 06:01 AM
Pay-per mileage is just in a guise of green for them to further know where you go. Next thing you know they'll have cameras on the streets... Whoops. I guess they already have them for a long time now.

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 06:09 AM
Whilst not even many English are aware of it, even in Manchester, one of the conditions of the 'public vote' regarding congestion charging and transport investment last year was that, in return for the investment (extension of Metro network and so) that the congestion charge that would, allegedly, finance it would be accompanied with the fitting of 'black boxes'. This was a very different scheme than the congestion charge scheme that was put into place in London and so on.

Now we know why, as with ID cards and the like, the government wanted to use Manchester as a test bed for a scheme with a much wider roll-out.

#s, all of them.

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 06:21 AM
reply to post by Merriman Weir

I do not think this will happen the people will not stand for it and there is no way they could sell it as going green but if UK is run from EU when it goes through and they decide to do it then there is nothing we can do but the people will put up a fight because we can not afford to pay this out on top of every thing less to drive what about all businesses they are already on the brink.


posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 06:23 AM
Yes, and there is a link within that same article to an article saying that Boris Johnston may bring these charges in London.
The Rothschilds have been wanting to buy the motorways for ages so they can put tolls on all of them and make even more money.
What these idiotic greedy fools do not realise is this. If they make it so impossible to travel, people who would not normally get annoyed will be incandescent with rage. If those who are not rich cannot use the roads, what on earth do they think will happen? They will have to shut off every motorway bridge for starters and then control every single inch of the land either side of the motorways and other major roads because nobody is going to put up with this. The rich and well off will become moving targets. There will eventually be a revolution.
If they have some system where you have to pay for mileage by phone or online, then it is just calling for everyone to put two fingers up and refuse to pay, and as they have not the jail space to lock up even hardened criminals, what will they do? The biggest problem is if they put tolls up. Although I suppose one thousand or even one hundred cars refusing to pay at a toll would create a nice backlog. In fact ten or twenty cars strategically placed would shut down any major city in an hour and cost them millions.
The idiots are already charging to park anywhere at all, except Wales who seem to have more sense…or are more afraid of their people.

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 06:57 AM
reply to post by Unregistered

Ahem they do have some cameras on the streets, It is not just at shopping centres you know that they have CCTV.

Not only is Brown trying to tax usmore, he wants to sell ofparts of the UK. The UK will become owned by foriegners shortly.

No one in the uk will be safe anymore.

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 06:58 AM

But the idea was shelved after more than 1.8million people signed a petition against the green tax.

They could not get this through before, but an idea this good at tracking every car in the UKs movements will never be let die.

The back up if they fail to get this through is to fit ANPR (automatic number plated recognition) to 40mil cameras and link them to a central database.

Now, why do they want to know the exact location of every car at any time?
I wonder

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 07:00 AM
Taxing people is pointless, and the thinking behind this is flawed and assumes people are stupid.

What are they gonna do with the money after all - buy a new ozone layer?


It would be very simple for the government to insist that all new build homes are carbon neutral, fully insulated and have solar panels on the roof and minature wind-turbines instead of chimneys.

It would be very very simple for the government to say "look, we don't care if that turbine spoils your unihibited view of the ocean, because these windfarms will benefit everyone - stop being so selfish - you either put up with it or your winters are going to be very long, very cold and very wet"

It would be simple for the government to pass legislation reducing taxes on clean burning biofuels, and to encourage their use.

Instead of an initiative to scrap old cars and buy new ones, how about an initiative to scrap old cars and replace them with hydrogen fuel cell ones, or other alternative energy vehicles?

God forbid the government would take the lead and invest in a hydrogen economy?

But no. The "answer" is apparently to tax everyone, again.

I despair...I really do....

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 07:10 AM
reply to post by neformore

That was a very good post now why dont the government think like this.


posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 07:19 AM
reply to post by suziwong

They could never bring in this kind of system without some other system to counteract it (electric/hydrogen cars that have no charges) without crashing sections of the UK economy.

Its just speculation and a bad idea that will go nowhere.

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 07:59 AM
reply to post by neformore

Good post !

People want eco houses - I would love to get off the power grid.....particularly in light of the revelations regarding potential 60% gas bill hikes & escalating electricity prices (warnings of power cuts)

If they want to reduce carbon - the Government should also look at the big supermarkets flying large quantities of perishable goods into the country
Tomatoes from Spain - strawberries from Israel etc etc it is nonsense.

Tax flights (after one per person per year)

They fail to even consider things that may benefit the individual if they have a financial impact upon the elite moneymakers

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:19 PM
What an interesting plan indeed. Charge people to drive as a deterrent to driving and producing carbon dioxide. I would want to know where the money they collect from the remaining drivers will go to. Since the planet Earth doesn't accept credit cards to renew the atmosphere, somethings tells me it will go into someone's pocket or used to suppress your rights further because they just can't have enough money or power.

What better way than to make the citizens pay for their cages. Eventually, they will realize that human beings also produce carbon dioxide and they must also be charged for breathing and then when they die, they must also pay a "pollution tax" because now all that carbon in your body will decompose and eventually be released into the air again.

Seems like a nice linear line, doesn't it.

posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:42 PM
How ridiculous! Like we all don't ALREADY pay for this via tax at the pump. Seems like it would be easier to increase the tax as opposed to retrofitting vehicles with a monitoring device. Although, NEITHER sounds like a good idea to me. I feel for all of those in the UK, but am certain that once you all get this going then the US will follow...

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