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Topic started on 11-10-2009 @ 10:51 PM by brill
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I came across this government site that basically details cases involving requests for security clearances for Department of Defence contractors.
Every organization has their dirty laundry but some of these cases are disturbing in that they involved incidents such as child molestation. The cases
range from 1996-2009 with a great amount of detail. Obviously names are excluded but the details are there. In addition there is no information, nor
would there be, in terms of security clearance specifics. The question is....should people, especially with clearly problematic histories, have access
to national security secrets ? Yes people can rehabilitate but child molesters ?
These decisions pertain to the adjudication of security clearance cases for contractor personnel under DoD Directive 5220.6, which implements
Executive Order 10865]
Here are a few examples with granted clearances:
Sexual Behavior; Personal Conduct
07/23/2009
From approximately 1995 to February 2005, Applicant engaged in exhibitionistic fantasies that cause security concerns under the guidelines for
sexual behavior and personal conduct. He stopped his questionable behavior in February 2005, attended counseling, and disclosed his behavior to his
wife. He has lost interest in his exhibitionistic fantasies because of physiological and cognitive reasons. He has learned his lesson, and the
likelihood of recurrence is remote. Eligibility for access to classified information is granted.
CASE NUMBER: 07-17559.h1
Personal Conduct; Criminal Conduct; Sexual Behavior
09/25/2008
Applicant mitigated the security concerns raised by his January 2004 molestation of his minor step-child by the passage of time, the public
knowledge of the offense, the favorable prognoses from his psychotherapist and the psychiatrist who performed his pre-sentencing evaluation. Clearnce
granted
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reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 11:58 PM by John_Brown
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I figure this might be something like the thought processes that contributed to the granting of clearances to these individuals:
The First man in question was cleared because he stopped the behavior, and told his wife. Investigators deemed it a potential threat due to its
socially unapproved nature; threat of exposure could be used against the cleared individual to force disclosure of sensitive information. It stopped.
It couldn't be used against him in regards to his wife, and if it were, he sought counseling so he could be seen as having done the right thing.
Situation neutralized.
With the second man, the threat is neutralized as well. The fact that the community is aware of his status as a child molester "mitigated the
security concerns" that this could be used to manipulate the applicant into exposing secrets. Further support for granting clearance lies in the
favorable medical prognosis. Any moral argument based on violation of the incest taboo is debatable; that the victim was a step-child
partially"mitigates" the crime, and the recognition of wrong doing completes the transformation into a worthy risk.
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reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 07:31 AM by brill
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Originally posted by John_Brown
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With the second man, the threat is neutralized as well. The fact that the community is aware of his status as a child molester "mitigated the
security concerns" that this could be used to manipulate the applicant into exposing secrets. Further support for granting clearance lies in the
favorable medical prognosis. Any moral argument based on violation of the incest taboo is debatable; that the victim was a step-child
partially"mitigates" the crime, and the recognition of wrong doing completes the transformation into a worthy risk.
thanks for your reply.
I'd agree somewhat with your assessment on the first case. Like I said people rehabilitate and move forward with their lives no problem. I do take
strong exception with the sampled second case in that 4 years seems like an awfully short time considering the offence. I just get the impression that
the individuals military history and success trumps and somewhat clouds the issue. I find that a re-occurring theme with the military and in some
cases with organized religion whereby people of that ilk can do no wrong. It sets the bar lower in terms of acceptable standards and sends a poor
message.
These were only a few samples there were lots of others many involving rampant drug/physical abuse and even foreign nationals. Again are these the
types of people who should even be remotely considered to guard national secrets. I would think that there would be many more capable and trustworthy
persons available or who may have applied.
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reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 07:50 AM by jibeho
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No surprise for the government.
Here is another very recent and glaring example of govt. incompetence in regards to the hiring process.
Census Bureau Hires Criminals
Last Updated: Fri, 10/09/2009 - 3:32pm
In an appalling example of government negligence, the U.S. Census Bureau has hired hundreds of serious criminals to enter the homes of unsuspecting
Americans to gather statistics for the 2010 count.
The astounding information was made public this week in a detailed congressional report that reveals the troubled bureau failed to adequately conduct
mandatory background checks for tens of thousands of census workers, clearing hundreds of violent criminals in the process.
Congressional investigators found that more than 35,000 temporary census workers were hired without the proper criminal background check, which
includes fingerprinting. That means that more than one-fifth of the canvassing workforce did not get properly processed or fully screened for
employment eligibility, creating an obvious security risk.
More than 200 of those were subsequently determined to have criminal records yet were in constant contact with the public while canvassing for the
ongoing 2010 census. Investigators say the criminal record checks were bungled because the bureau’s incompetent staff was poorly trained to conduct
them.
www.judicialwatch.org...
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reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 08:40 AM by Rhetoric
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I've found that a lot of people misunderstand the process for obtaining clearance.
Usually people are granted clearance not because of what they do, but because of what they have access to.
A person who hires prostitutes is more dangerous in this respect than a person who has committed murder, it's true.
Leverage is the main key.... Do you have a secret that someone could use as leverage to get you to divulge information, pass on secrets, etc.
If you've committed murder, but it's not a secret, there's no leverage. If you are a pedophile and nobody knows about it, then someone could use
that as leverage.
It's a weird process, and has little to do with your record, and much more to do with what's NOT on record.
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reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 10:39 AM by PhoenixDemon
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This may veer a little away from the original post but it pertains to security clearances in general. I'm currently awaiting my security clearance
for a job in Afghanistan. I have a solid background, prior law enforcement, solid private sector etc...However, I have almost $90K in unpaid medical
bills due to getting shot in Iraq...I'm still concerned that I may get denied a clearance dut to this and it frustrates me to see some of the idiots
that get clearances...Anyone have any knowledge of how they look at credit issues such as this?
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reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 12:53 PM by brill
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Originally posted by PhoenixDemon
This may veer a little away from the original post but it pertains to security clearances in general. I'm currently awaiting my security clearance
for a job in Afghanistan. I have a solid background, prior law enforcement, solid private sector etc...However, I have almost $90K in unpaid medical
bills due to getting shot in Iraq...I'm still concerned that I may get denied a clearance dut to this and it frustrates me to see some of the idiots
that get clearances...Anyone have any knowledge of how they look at credit issues such as this?
Actually judging from several of the cases a large percentage seem to deal with people who have very high debt. I found it a bit odd to see details
like that exposed. I wouldn't think you have to worry but then who knows.
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reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 04:32 PM by John_Brown
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reply to post by Rhetoric
This is what I was trying to get at with my post. I agree, a lot of people misunderstand the process, even military personnel.
[edit on 13-10-2009 by John_Brown]
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