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Originally posted by poling2482
reply to post by lifecitizen
Both friends were Marines and both went over there when the war started. Brandon came back after a year and never went back to the Marines. I asked him about being awol and he said after what happened over there he was never going back to the Marines. I worried about him being arrested for a while until my Paul came back. He said that Brandons squad got in a fire fight and thats all he knew but he also said the Marines told him that he was discharged and didnt have to finish his time! Paul told me the worst thing he witnessed was a Marine sgt shooting a little girl in the streets who didnt pose any threat. He also said they would go around killing all the stray dogs just for fun. He also told me that any iraqies they arrested they would beat. He told me that he would take his rifle and break there jaws with the butt of the weapon. You can tell he regrets it and it hurts him to talk about it.
I believe you- very very sad
What a regret to have to live with.
I know it's a generalisation but every guy I've ever met that has been in the army has been a weirdo- the army is the perfect place for nutjobs who have a preoccupation with violence- they are welcomed with open arms.
Originally posted by UMayBRite!
Looking at this story from my perspective(which is actually sympathetic),
there are some things that don't add up. Either this guy completely
downplayed the degree to which he "lived" his religion or he's a liar.
Sometimes people become liars because of a completely distorted view
of reality, something that is not uncommon among Evangelicals and
From the standpoint of normal reality, Schizophrenics are liars.
I see Several possibilities:
1. Munschausen's Syndrome, ie, he likes to tell tall tales.
2. He was really as they say down under, a Complete Bible Basher,
causing his Captain to question not only his sanity, but the threat he
posed to the cohesiveness of the unit. At best the OP has to have
downplayed the degree with which he displayed his religion.
3. That he would be sent up based on one answer, supports #1. If the rest
of what he's telling us is true, there had to be a lot more to base his
Officer's decisions on than that one answer. It is possible that the only
question dealing with religion was the "punch me" question.
4. In his defense, it may have been while things were winding down in
Kosovo, there may have been extra space, so he may have had
effectively his own room. The other possibility is that he may have
been enough "on the edge" that he was given NCO quarters. No one
wanted to bunk with him.
5. The mostly likely explanation, if #1 isn't the case, is that after the
humiliation of being sent to a Psych ward, he kept quiet for 8 years.
His captain made up the story about "on leave" to protect him. Captain
was atheist, and not sympathetic, but also professional. Over the
years, OP tended to forget other explanations and remember the
religious persecution aspects. Finally he feels good enough to go public.
6. He hasn't told us much about his beliefs other than that he considers
himself to be pretty mainstrean. If there were quite a bit about it in his
evaluation, it is likely that the Psych ward would have talked to him
about it. Otherwise, they wouldn't have brought it up unless he did.
Psych people in Germany would likely be pretty secular and would
consider a religious case out of the ordinary. IMHO, if they questioned
his religion, it is likely that it was as much curiosity as attempting to
Originally posted by Chris2pher
This story is completely made-up. I was in the military and there are several levels of bureaucracy that would be in the way of this actually happening. Besides, there are major military hospitals that would have been used not German ones. Thanks Why post lies? And if you do post them at least make them more interesting.
Originally posted by poling2482
I just got home and I havnt got a chance to read all the post but I read the first couple of pages. I know im not the best speller, thanks for pointing that out. Yes I did wait this long becaue I was ashamed at first, I felt like I did something wrong. The captains name is Eric Schwartz and im sure he is a little higher up by now. I dont know the name of the German hospital, I just know its about a 3 hour ride or so from Bamberg. Im not making this up. I couldnt beleive they got away with it either. Even when I called Senator Sessions and the captain came and asked me about it he made it clear that if I were to pursue it then it would only cause trouble for myself. And to the poster that had something to say about the barracks. They were old ww2 barracks and yes I had my own room there. I started off as a 63-w but like I said it didnt take long for our current captain to realize I was a little to smart to be a grease junkie. I was moved into the captains building and did her QTB reports. When captain Schwartz arrived she even told him I was the best QTB soldier around. I dont know what captain Schwartz had against me. My renlistment code is E3. I would be happy to answer any questions. Ill even look around and see if i can find more documents about the hospital. But beleive me when I say its all true. Im not here to become famous or make friends I just wanted to tell some people outside my world here in Daphne, AL.
I arrived in Germany and was there about 2 weeks and then left for Kosovo for a few months.
They handcuffed me and took me to a white van and put me in the back. About 15 min later my sgt tossed me a bag with some clothes in it. I didnt reconize the driver of the van. The first three stops were all German hospitals. At each one they took blood from the same arm. After the third one my arm turned a nasty yellow and black color. Around 5 am we arrived at a German mental hospital.
Originally posted by pasttheclouds
why would god want you to shoot someone ?
(jesus gave people time to repent, not kill them before they could repent,
and what is repenting ? it is opposite of ignorance, it is seeing something)
he is god, he is one, he is free.
It was a test of him to see how (blind?) you think.
People think logic and god cannot be one thing,
but it is, and in logic truth is free as one,
as being god.
That was written in scripture, but hidden,
because how do you explain a paradox (imagine life
as an '8' and explain that in a 'book' thousands of years
back, when the eight was still far from full and had to be grown further,
this life is both in relgion as logic, which is one as truth, a paradox)
So he asks to you, if your imagination tells you without logic,
if your god asks you without being truth (which is logic)
ask you to kill, would you...
and people would... because they are afraid to question
god, when he wants to be questioned, because that is love
as opposite to self-love.
Going to the casino and picking randomly a choice,
is testing god.
Talking to life, demanding logic, asking questions,
that is love for what you want to see, that
is not testing god, as religion misunderstands.
Your boss is also human, and humans react strange,
but there is a lesson in what happened.
[edit on 13-10-2009 by pasttheclouds]