Why do democrats hate so much? A thought to ponder., page 3
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reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 04:42 PM by SaturnFX
Originally posted by johnny2127

Categorically untrue. Read the private papers of Lincoln sometime. This was a deeply held belief in human equality, not a military strategy. Read what he thought and wrote, and stop with this useless drivel. Its like the US version of people saying the Holocaust never happened.



Straight from the PBS website (source here...clicky)

In his inaugural address, delivered on March 4, 1861, Lincoln proclaimed that it was his duty to maintain the Union. He also declared that he had no intention of ending slavery where it existed, or of repealing the Fugitive Slave Law -- a position that horrified African Americans and their white allies. Lincoln's statement, however, did not satisfy the Confederacy, and on April 12 they attacked Fort Sumter, a federal stronghold in Charleston, South Carolina. Federal troops returned the fire. The Civil War had begun.


and the next relevant bit



Lincoln's chance came after the Union victory at the Battle of Antietam in September of 1862. He issued the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation on September 22. The proclamation warned the Confederate states to surrender by January 1, 1863, or their slaves would be freed.


It was a military tactic, plain and simple...he of course was part of some liberal wacky thought that it would be cool if all slaves were free, but he assured the conservatives time and time again that he wasnt going to do that...until it was a viable military tactic to crush the Confederate spirit, which incidently it did when they didnt surrender and he freed em all (not just the escaped ones)

you can apologise like a man, or close your eyes and ears and scream nananana, I cant hear you...either way



reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 04:48 PM by johnny2127
reply to post by Kaploink



Well I wouldn't agree with the overall statement that the Democrats are the party of hate. I am Conservative, but wouldn't say I am Republican anymore. I would say I am a Reagan Republican, but thats not the current Republican Party. That being said, I would say there is hate on both sides obviously. However, what I have noticed about most Democrats and liberals as that they are the most intolerant of other people's opinions of any group. They preach tolerance and then treat all dissenting opinions as that of people with lesser intelligence, or evil. Sure, some conservatives do the same thing, but its a much much higher percentage of democrats and liberals that do this.


reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 05:00 PM by mikerussellus
Originally posted by SaturnFX
I think the intolerance comes from a general hatred of ignorance.

If you know that 1+4=5 and someone says it is 3 cause God said it is...you can either blow your lid and call them a flipping idiot, or walk away laughing and looking down at that person...both responses are generally negative, but rightfully so.

So, when you have a large amount of scientific data, peer reviewed, showing a link between emissions of automobiles and increase in global warming and others simply deny the evidence, you tend to appear negative because your dealing with ignorance, or if you see the government that supposed to be independent of religious institutions given breaks for people in a religious ceremony and then start dictating how the religious ceremony should be preformed (aka, gays cant marry), then ya...people will see this as a absolute pinnicle of moronishness...such decisions should be made by the church, not by the government or any offical of the government..frankly, the government should only observe civil unifications...if some church wants to tie in their marriage ceremony with the state unification, then so be it..

The party isnt negative, its angry at ignorance as we all are when we have absolute raw hard data backing up a claim (and yes, smoking is linked to cancer...look how long it took for "them" to accept that bit of science)



Now THAT is a cognitive response from the left that I've read and can understand. Thank you for your reply.


reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 05:09 PM by mikerussellus
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



Why does Obama need the republicans for his agenda? He has all the cards. He doesn't need them at all.

To claim bipartisanship for some of his obvious left leaning policies is ludicrous.


reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 05:12 PM by mikerussellus
reply to post by Battleline



I tend to agree with you. The problem is with their own party, though. They can't push their agenda without all members supporting them. And as for getting the republicans on board, they look to nulify their left-leaning policies with republican endorsement.



reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 05:32 PM by grover
reply to post by johnny2127


You are correct of course...but sad isn't it...

how far the Republican party has fallen?

Unfortunately for the nation (and the party) all those people would be considered far too liberal for the GOP today.

Hell...

Nixon is too liberal for the GOP today.

[edit on 11-10-2009 by grover]


reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 05:33 PM by mikerussellus
reply to post by stonespiral



Unless you're Janine Garafelo, I think you're exempt. I'm refering to the anger that I see, especially when I've posted counter-points on political issues. Instead of sensible arguments, I see anger.

This anger is all over the media as well. Sure, there's Limbaugh et al, but what do you expect? Would these people want no other side?

As for the line between liberal/democrat/conservative/republican

My apologies.

I am a conservative, but in no way am I a republican.

Point taken.


reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 05:35 PM by TheOneElectric
reply to post by DraconianKing



I don't even know. I think it is a bunch of old grumpy people being old. I assume you are around my age due to your Bleach Avatar. I don't think many individuals our age are this brainwashed in partisan nonsense, I think we understand that it gets us nowhere.

Now, I am not slamming all the older posters out there....I am just saying that this hate is being lost in the transference of values between generations. (even if the OP mislabeled which party feeds off of hate)



[edit on 11-10-2009 by TheOneElectric]
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