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Why do democrats hate so much? A thought to ponder.

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posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 03:56 AM
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posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:03 AM
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Do you actually listen or watch these shows? It seems to me that you only watch the shows that oppose the conservative view point and you are parroting what they say. Put the Kool-aide down, turn on the t.v. or the radio and pay attention. Be a critical thinker. Google what conservatives stand for or believe in, write these down. Turn off your pc, go outside find all the black folks of voting age and tell them you are doing a study and ask them if these are values that they believe in...they will tell you that they are the values they believe in. Black folks don't want government all in their lives, they don't love abortion & ask them about gays getting married....
Now go do work.-Doug


Originally posted by andrewh7

Originally posted by FadeToBlack
One thing I don't understand is how so many Liberal (I say Liberal and Conservative because I'm neither...) people are so darned hateful and inflammatory.


What I can't understand is why so many conservatives are enormous hypocrites. They engage in a concerted campaign to prove the the first Black President is an illegal immigrant from Kenya, many denying that it had nothing to do with race.

You turn on Fox News and you have O'Reilly shouting down criticism of Bush for eight years saying doing so in a time of war is treason. Anyone who rallied in support of our civil liberties were labeled as a terrorist sympathizer.You turn on Beck blaming atheists and Muslims for all the world's problems, and asserting that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people" but that doesn't necessarily mean that he "doesn't like white people." You have Brian Kilmeade arguing that we allow different species to marry each other in the US and that racial mixing is diluting the purity of White genes.

We have Matthew Shepard getting murdered in Utah for being gay. We have Dr. Tiller being murdered for doing something that is completely legal.

We have the GOP VP candidate calling her opponent a terrorist and a communist in order to scare voters. It goes so far that McCain has to defend Obama at one of his own rallies after one of his audience members said that Obama was a Muslim who couldn't be trusted.

Now, we have teabaggers shouting out debate at healthcare town halls, spouting BS rhetoric about "Death Panels"

The GOP now exploits Chicago's loss of the Olympics to score a cheap shot on Obama, arguing that the world must hate him. Days later, the GOP argues that he only got the Nobel Peace Prize because the world was showing him undue favoritism.

We Rush and Beck celebrating America's loss of the Olympics because they had rooted for it.

The Republicans not only hate, they project their personalities onto those they criticize because they are too ashamed to accept who they are.




posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:12 AM
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posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by v8vroom
Oh fer sure dude, you make such a smart and compelling argument. You "sir" are a case in point. You need to do a pole as well...as in shove one where the sun don't shine. Next time you're in a black community to buy your drugs, try to hide how you really feel, hows that for a stereotype.
Now go be stupid.-Doug




Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by muggl3z
How long will it take you folks to realize they are ALL hypocrites.


Well I figured out the guy above is a fully functioning retard

and you are probably correct


Yes I will

Thanks



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:22 AM
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Hehe, no need to confirm. I knew you would. Then go in peace.-Doug


Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by v8vroom
Oh fer sure dude, you make such a smart and compelling argument. You "sir" are a case in point. You need to do a pole as well...as in shove one where the sun don't shine. Next time you're in a black community to buy your drugs, try to hide how you really feel, hows that for a stereotype.
Now go be stupid.-Doug




Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by muggl3z
How long will it take you folks to realize they are ALL hypocrites.


Well I figured out the guy above is a fully functioning retard

and you are probably correct


Yes I will

Thanks



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by v8vroom
Hehe, no need to confirm. I knew you would. Then go in peace.-Doug


Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by v8vroom
Oh fer sure dude, you make such a smart and compelling argument. You "sir" are a case in point. You need to do a pole as well...as in shove one where the sun don't shine. Next time you're in a black community to buy your drugs, try to hide how you really feel, hows that for a stereotype.
Now go be stupid.-Doug




Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by muggl3z
How long will it take you folks to realize they are ALL hypocrites.


Well I figured out the guy above is a fully functioning retard

and you are probably correct


Yes I will

Thanks


Certainly

Remember not to wear your helmut in the pool



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:30 AM
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"helmut"...sure thing. Like I said, you sir are a case in point. I'm done.-Doug (Still black and right.)




Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by v8vroom
Hehe, no need to confirm. I knew you would. Then go in peace.-Doug

Now go be stupid.-Doug



Certainly

Remember not to wear your helmut in the pool



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 06:18 AM
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mike - wake up - we need you back on the thread - the clowns are taking over the thread and peeing in the pool
- have been lurking for a while now ,read all 11 pages when I usually avoid these types of threads like the plague but this one has been fairly interesting...I have no political party - and here's why:

I used to be a leftist - far left in fact - for many years and made an ideological shift after a number of disillusioning experiences and coming to grips with the reality of world history and the real price of socialist and communist theory in practice- it ain't pretty - however, along the way I made a study of conservative thought - and what I discovered is that what we have in the Republican party of today is NOT true conservatism and what we have in the Democratic party is NOT true liberalism....these clowns are absolute charactures of what they once were and do not deserve our support -

Because of these two groups and their crude ineptitude, greed and corruption we are now more divided and polarized than at any time since the civil war and that is a tragedy in the making....we need, no we MUST find a different way to communicate besides asking why or whether one group "hates" more than the other group - that kind of discourse just won't cut it - its subjective, superficial and ultimately useless -

Those of us who recognize this need to find unity on real principles and values that are significant and life affirming and have teeth and then take action to form a third party - and keep at it until its done and has a chance at the horse race - it could take a very long time but its the only thing that will change the balance of power from the bloated carcass that is the fed back to the people of this country. That would be a discussion worth having.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 07:24 AM
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I'm awake now. -yawn-

That's why I call myself a conservative, and not a republican. Here's the kicker, though. Most people are conservative.

Sure, you have your real leftist-liberal folks but most just want to work, love their families, live in a nice home, own a nice car, and stay secure.

I would say that describes 95% of the folks here. And out in the world.

The democratic party has been hi-jacked by a bunch of extremists who do hate. They are angry people who would like nothing better than to see Bush/Beck/Limbaugh die in a flaming car crash.

Why? I don't wish to see Obama die. I don't even wish ill will on Pelosi, Garafelo, Olbermann, Combs.

And yet, we approach the idea of someones death as acceptable when it's Rush Limbaugh? Why can't he enjoy the same rights of free speech as we all do?

So I call it as I see it. On one side, we tolerate the rhetoric and "death" threats from the left.

On the other, we see that they can't relinquish the same liberties when there is the criticism on their part.

On a more personal level, I write a conservative article or two each month for a couple different magazines. I get three to four death threats each month. My wife used to worry, but now she sees them as a barometer to how effective my writing is.
Have we sunk so low in our society that we now see death threats from the "tolerant" party as ok?
Thus adding more strength to my original post.

-good morning-



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 07:32 AM
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Can people stop making stupid threads on ATS about US politics - its all damn meaningless drivel.

The left and right both serve the globalist controllers - all the reasons that they 'hate' each other are invented by the globalists, and placed on television to create a division inside America that they can use to further their own agenda.

Its gives people the illusion of choice - it keeps people fighting each other, so they dont see the real issues.

If you are going to indulge in this kind of trash - get off ATS - you are simply more disinfo and obscuring the real issues - which are totally unrelated to the false two party system.

What a joke - I wish mods would shut down such threads and ban the originators from posting, for being so damn ignorant.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 07:37 AM
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Uhh, thanks for your opinion. Tell me, who did you vote for in the last election? Why are you so angry? Why do you feel that an honest debate on the polarization of characterization of individuals is such a bad thing?

What topics would you decide for me to post?



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 08:16 AM
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he is probably mad because he does not like to think about different viewpoints... just like most of our species. i voted for obama and i only get mad when someone says something completely false and then professes it as truth. that angers me on a visceral level



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by Amagnon
Can people stop making stupid threads on ATS about US politics - its all damn meaningless drivel.

The left and right both serve the globalist controllers - all the reasons that they 'hate' each other are invented by the globalists, and placed on television to create a division inside America that they can use to further their own agenda.

Its gives people the illusion of choice - it keeps people fighting each other, so they dont see the real issues.

If you are going to indulge in this kind of trash - get off ATS - you are simply more disinfo and obscuring the real issues - which are totally unrelated to the false two party system.

What a joke - I wish mods would shut down such threads and ban the originators from posting, for being so damn ignorant.


wow.. somebody needs a hug

sorry if you're not the supreme important god you wished you could be, you' re just a little fish in a big ol pond like the rest of us.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 08:19 AM
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The Civil Rights act of 1964 was the catalyst that really divided the nation as well as the Democratic and Republican political parties.

But all in all ...

Do you really believe that our enemies firing on US troops in Afghanistan care whether they're Democrats or Republicans ?





posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by guidanceofthe third kind
he is probably mad because he does not like to think about different viewpoints... just like most of our species. i voted for obama and i only get mad when someone says something completely false and then professes it as truth. that angers me on a visceral level


As you have every right to do. Reasonable debate based on fact, presidence, should be allowed.

I voted for McCain (ugh) and am almost glad he lost because I would have one hell of a time defending him/his policies.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by nh_ee



The Civil Rights act of 1964 was the catalyst that really divided the nation as well as the Democratic and Republican political parties.

But all in all ...

Do you really believe that our enemies firing on US troops in Afghanistan care whether they're Democrats or Republicans ?




Nope. And it's the reason why we need to expose the "hate" and then try to find common ground. When we can isolate the extremists on both sides and put them somewhere where they won't do any harm (DC, perhaps?) and let the grown-ups run the country.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
I think the intolerance comes from a general hatred of ignorance.

If you know that 1+4=5 and someone says it is 3 cause God said it is...you can either blow your lid and call them a flipping idiot, or walk away laughing and looking down at that person...both responses are generally negative, but rightfully so.

So, when you have a large amount of scientific data, peer reviewed, showing a link between emissions of automobiles and increase in global warming and others simply deny the evidence, you tend to appear negative because your dealing with ignorance, or if you see the government that supposed to be independent of religious institutions given breaks for people in a religious ceremony and then start dictating how the religious ceremony should be preformed (aka, gays cant marry), then ya...people will see this as a absolute pinnicle of moronishness...such decisions should be made by the church, not by the government or any offical of the government..frankly, the government should only observe civil unifications...if some church wants to tie in their marriage ceremony with the state unification, then so be it..

The party isnt negative, its angry at ignorance as we all are when we have absolute raw hard data backing up a claim (and yes, smoking is linked to cancer...look how long it took for "them" to accept that bit of science)



Do you realize how ignorant and arrogant that statement is? You seriously are sitting here telling us all that the left's intolerance of the right's opinions are because your opinions are all proven scientifically correct, and you really think the right opinions are determined by religion? WOW WOW WOW.... That's just a flat out incredible statement. Shows you truly do not understand the right and have fallen for the stereotypes of what the right is.

Oh and by the way, saying that a correlation between 'car emissions' and global warming 'proves' that it has caused global warming is both ignorant, and shows you don't even understand the liberal global warming scientific theory. Given that humans control 3% of all the carbon dioxide emissions on the earth, if you want to believe that we really are causing global warming, thats your choice. Does make me wonder though, how did the world go through such period of warming and cooling in the past without evil capitalism to blame? Also interesting that the earth has actually COOLED every year for the last 10 years.....



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus




That's why I call myself a conservative, and not a republican. Here's the kicker, though. Most people are conservative.


Okay - agree with you here - especially your expanded definition -


The democratic party has been hi-jacked by a bunch of extremists who do hate. They are angry people who would like nothing better than to see Bush/Beck/Limbaugh die in a flaming car crash.

Why? I don't wish to see Obama die. I don't even wish ill will on Pelosi, Garafelo, Olbermann, Combs.

And yet, we approach the idea of someones death as acceptable when it's Rush Limbaugh? Why can't he enjoy the same rights of free speech as we all do?

So I call it as I see it. On one side, we tolerate the rhetoric and "death" threats from the left.

On the other, we see that they can't relinquish the same liberties when there is the criticism on their part.


Yeah they are tolerating that behavior - they learned some things about attack and control from the republicans that were in power for eight years - plus great whopping lies and spying on Americans, terror watch lists with a million names on it, suspension of habeus corpus, torture and rendition - and now they don't want to give much of that up either... its sad. All of those things are still in place and not a word from the MSM, or the democrats on these issues...



On a more personal level, I write a conservative article or two each month for a couple different magazines. I get three to four death threats each month. My wife used to worry, but now she sees them as a barometer to how effective my writing is.
Have we sunk so low in our society that we now see death threats from the "tolerant" party as ok?
Thus adding more strength to my original post.


Ahh yeah I can see more clearly now how these things would lead you to post this thread...I can't tell you how much this saddens me - we really do need a different kind of discourse in this country...



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 09:07 AM
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HOW it started is moot, in my opinion. If the right did start with hate issues (topic for another post) then the left has done a wonderful job carrying the ball.

I just can't find the corelation between honest disagreement and death threats.

You (anyone) disagree with something I believe in? Debate. Change my mind. Maybe I can change yours.

Threaten me with violence though? Bad form.

If I had a dollar for every post about Bush/Limbaugh/Beck getting a bullet in the brain, I could retire.

Change the name to Obama?

Hate crime/fanatic right-wing insanity/jail time/deny free speech for haters. . . . .



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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Parties change over time. As with all things. Democrats yes were not so socially acceptable of others. But over time the rolls of Republican and Democrat have changed considerably.

Democrats are now far more interested in minority groups than Republicans are. This must have become apparent during the last election. I don't believe that it would have mattered that the nominee for the democrats was green, the party platform fits with minorities way more than Republicans currently do.

Republicans on the other hand have become synonymous with big business and stomping on the little guy. Republicans have come to believe in the ideology of "too big to fail" and corporate greed and excess.

Wars started by Republicans that are unwinnable. Ya think the Bush administration would have talked to Russia before going into Afghanistan. But no, don't learn from the mistakes of the past. Let's just repeat them.

You want to talk about hate in a political party? Try learning what parties have become rather than what they once stood for. While the names stay the same the ideologies change.

Republicans = Big business, more war, less opportunities for the little guy.

Democrats = Less war, more social programs, small business.

How about cheering when we loose the bid for the Olympics, and booing when our countries leader brings home a Nobel peace prize? Talk about hate?


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