Tea Partiers Turn on GOP Leadership (and it's about damn time), page 1
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Topic started on 11-10-2009 @ 09:41 AM by jdub297
It's one thing to bitch about the people you think have screwed things up for America.

It's another altogether to try to seek leaders for re-focused "business as usual" and a return to the ideals you embrace.

It's also about time.

While the energy of the anti-tax and anti-big government Tea Party movement may yet haunt Democrats in 2010, the first order of business appears to be remaking the Republican Party.

Whether it’s the loose confederation of Washington-oriented groups that have played an organizational role or the state-level activists who are channeling grass roots anger into action back home, Tea Party forces are confronting the Republican establishment by backing insurgent conservatives and generating their own candidates—even if it means taking on GOP incumbents.

“We will be a headache for anyone who believes the Constitution of the United States…isn’t to be protected,” said Dick Armey, chairman of the anti-tax and limited government advocacy group FreedomWorks, which helped plan and promote the Tea Parties, town hall protests and the September ‘Taxpayer March’ in Washington. “If you can’t take it seriously, we will look for places of other employment for you.”

“We’re not a partisan organization, and I think many Republicans are disappointed we are not,” added Armey, a former GOP congressman.


www.politico.com...

Finally! The real purpose has come to the fore. Dissatisfaction alone is never enough.

If conservatives feel left out, they will need to get rid of their self-annointed and self-aggrandizing "spokespersons" and get some new blood in the leadership.

It's all about "Representative Government," isn't it?

Read more: www.politico.com...


jw

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reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 10:29 AM by jdub297
reply to post by Rhetoric
I was wondering when they were going to realize they were just being used.


I don't think we are "being used." We are being capitalized on and taken advantage of. Co-opted from every side for their own self-serving agendas.

(This really isn't a left-right didactic. It's much more multi-faceted than you may think-- the most vehement, and shrillest criticism has been from those who wanted to "lump-in" the Tea Party movement with their respective bogeymen. Well, Surprise, surprise.)

The left and MSM capitalize by making us into monsters.
The right and conservative media capitalize with their "me too" attitudes and attempts to profit by saying: "see, we were right all along."

Too bad for them, they were wrong!

This isn't "biting the hand that feeds you," at all.

Tea Party movements began and thrived WITHOUT ANY SUPPORT from the popular press.

CNN , MSNBC, et al saw us as an opportunity to cement the loyalty of the faithful and their viewership.

FOX, and the GOP saw us as the only legitimate "coattails" to grab on to since the current leadership, by and large, are as deeply sold-out and committed to the CW and the status quo as their (in name/party-affiliation only) "opponents. If anything, we got (almost) co-opted.


Hopefully their funding and additional resources won't completely dry up.


We got by just fine, thank you, without them. We've NEVER relied on them for anything. If they want to throw $$ or airtime or bandwidth our way, we'd be stupid NOT to take it.

What's the Hollywood mantra? "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

Damned right. Let's see who runs with THIS story.

(I give even odds we actually get carried in the NYT, WaPo and HuffPo, CNN over this "development")

Is this when false-news starts referring to them as "Loonies" now?


"Starts?" What have you missed?

We've been "crazed," "misled," "unhinged," and worse from DAY ONE.

What I can't wait to see are the "how dare you" retorts from the comfortable GOP parasites who thought they'd just "come along for the ride."

Well, guess what. 2010 is right around the corner. Time to put up or shut up. Eveveryone.

Ooops.

Deny ignorance!

jw



reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 12:53 PM by whaaa
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by Rhetoric
I was wondering when they were going to realize they were just being used.


I don't think we are "being used." We are being capitalized on and taken advantage of. Co-opted from every side for their own self-serving agendas.


And that's not "being used" ?



I think most logical folks would categorize "being taken advantage of" as "being used"

And if the GOP deems the "tea baggers" a threat; "being used" will seem like the good old days.

Just like anti war people were designated as traitors, communists, America haters, terrorist sympathizers etc. and demonized by the military/industrial complex neocons. Do you think that those very same people would have any problems turning against rightwing wacko, homegrown terrorists, Koresh/McVey sympathizers, etc.
Politics is about money and the control of that money. This could get nasty.

Let the games begin!!!









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reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 04:13 PM by Miraj
reply to post by jdub297


They really need to.

The GOP was obscuring what these people actually stand for.

I hate to do this.. but this is exactly what Gerald Celente noted would begin to happen.

Is a third viable political party being formed?



reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 04:15 PM by jdub297
reply to post by Jnewell33
I suppose with the way that the mainstream media covered these people it would lead you to believe they were all red neck gun toting bible thumping republicans, but it enlightens the rest of us what direction this thread was intended to go.


I'm not really sure what you mean here.

First, the liberals and MSM said "this is nothing, it'll go away."
Then they said, FOX and the GOP are running the show.
Then, when it became undeniable that the Tea Party movement was open to and invigorated by Amerccans from all walks of life, we were cast as "fringers," and worse.

Entire threads here spent days castigating Tea Party participants and supporters as beholden to the Republican party, and even more extreme political ideologies.

Maybe now, people will see that disgust is not limited to a single party, and is not really political at all.

It is ideological, but not tied to any one in the mainstream.

We are more "maverick" than most people can even imagine.

Those who say, "do something about it," are about to get their wish granted in spades.

jw


reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 04:18 PM by jdub297
reply to post by sr_robert1
So what's wrong with being "red neck gun toting bible thumping republicans"?

Mainly the red neck gun toting part.


So if we carry Bibles into the Statehouse, we're good to go. But if we're Southern, rural, conservative gun-owners, We're not allowed in?

And what about the Republican part? They out, too?

Explain, please.

jw


reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 05:44 PM by jdub297
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
I just wonder how much backing they'll have... It won't do for them to be a subsection of Republicans. They have to come out as something DIFFERENT than Republicans.


I wouldn't expect you to make an endorsement or anything, but if you ignore the blather for a bit and look at the Tea Party Patriots and Armey's site, you'll see that the movement started off WITH NO formal "Republican" backing, and that any Republicans who've "come on board" have done so to try to glean some of the attention these non-partisan protesters have garnered on their own.

When we've sponsored protests in Indiana and Texas, we've made it absolutely clear that no candidate or elected official from EITHER party was invited to speak.

They can ATTEND, but they do not speak for us.

We can do that for ourselves quite well, thank you.

jw

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