Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by StinkyFeet
So basically you are saying since George has got more blood on his hands, he should get the prize?
No I disagree, let's see what George did at home shall we?
--Allowed the torture of so called "enemy combatants" in US institutions overseas.
--Spied on his own people, illegaly I might add, in order to "combat" domestic terrorism.
--Completely destroyed the economy by refusing to actually sit down and read the issues at hand and do anything but spend more money on the war.
--Dissolved the Iraqi army in the days following the invasion. This lead to millions of people without jobs to feed their families, who in turn
joined the insurgency that he "quelled".
--Has the blood of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of civillians.
--Black Water Scandals
--Oil For Food Scandal
--Mission Accomplished Speech
Ok, so that last one was just a shot at him I will admit. But people who receive the prize should be receiving it for having done something positive,
that didn't direcly cause the death of thousands of people and the dissolving of a constitution and the systematic destruction of foreign relations
for corporate profit.
~Keeper
1. There is proof that water boarding thwarted several terrorist attacks. It might be immoral, but at least he valued the safety of his citizens
over "so called enemy combatants."
2. Apparently you've never heard of the mid-Atlantic drop? The British have been spying on us forever, and we've been spying on the British. They
meet in international waters, and trade information. This is not illegal, and is still happening. However, since you don't know about it, you feel
all warm and fuzzy.
3. A lot of assumptions on your part. You don't know what he did or didn't read.
4. We learned from WW2 whether you dissolve a military or not you will still have wolves that will have be to be dealt with. Plus it is common
knowledge Hussein has trained his elite guard with insurgency tactics. He even warned of what would come once he was removed from power. His
military was primarily Sunni in a country that is multi-ethic, you wouldn't enjoy being policed by an ethic group that believes your trash.
5. All wars kill Civilians. Jimmy Carter recently got a Nobel Peace Prize, and he failed miserably at handling everything while President.
6. Black Water is a company that should be held accountable for their actions.
7. Oil for Food started way before W. That was actually the UN, French, and Iraq. W didn't create oil for food, funny that you would attempt to
link him to a UN created problem.
8. The Mission was accomplished at that point. Unfortunately we began nation building after the war, and we are still nation building. This is a
total different Mission.