I think as long as the government continues to restrict a constitutional right, then people will continue to act like idiots.

The propaganda reel given off by this administration and the media can be directly attributed to situations like this.

When's the last time you watched CNN and within ten minutes they did not mention somebody being shot or US soldiers dying?

The environment has turned into one of violence. And people aren't paranoid of each other, they are paranoid of the government, which is why they have the right to bear arms in the first place.

Do I want guns in a gang member's hands? No.

Do I want guns in my law abiding good citizen's home? Yes

Weapons are not the problem, humans are.

~Keeper

The man was a FOOL for opening up without first checking his target.


That is NOT paranoid gun culture at work. It was poor training and a poor decision that cause that tragedy.


Unfortunatly it does not say in our Constitution that only "smart" people can own firearms. Given enough of the population, things like this are bound to happen from time to time.

Originally posted by Remixtup
Horrible Chainsaw Accident
Monday, May 11, 2009

These people were trying to cut a tree and one accidentally cut the other.

The first scenario is about a man who was trying to shoot someone and shot someone. See the difference?

People think I'm paranoid because I own guns. If I own guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

Seriously It's a tragic thing , the man was 60+ years old and may not have been able to see or hear correctly. 99% of heartache would not happen if people followed these rules.

RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY

RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET

I can't imagine what this guy is going through or his belated bride to be's family. He should be put on suicide watch.

Wow, I mean how the heck do you manage to shoot your wife to be on accident? Didn't he see she was not there when he woke up or let me guess he slept on the sofa that night?

Seems like a good cover for premeditated murder if you ask me! also to much of a coincidence that he shot her the night before they got married, my bet is that he didn't want to marry her.

[edit on 10-10-2009 by CriticalThinking]

RULE V : Know whats beyond your target

theres simply more to the story than meets the eye

and again this wasnt a gun that killed someone, it was a person who killed someone

guns shouldnt even be part of the discussion

if guns were illegal then the man wouldve just used some other weapon on the woman and shed still be dead

the problem here arent guns, its not the people, its society

our society has been programed to live in fear, and rightfully so, theres a great amount of bs in our society and the government makes it worse with all the new laws meant to protect us and keep us safe, they dont, they just make things worse, they make people more desperate, they make people more paranoid, and our world is turning to crap


what i am sick of those is after every single event happens with a gun there are way too many people bitching and moaning about getting rid of guns

i which we had powerful enough computers to simulate for these people how the world would be if only criminals could get the guns, which is what would happen if they made guns illegal


edited also to say, the only paranoia involved in guns are the people so scared of guns they constantly complain to have them banned, those are the paranoid people

[edit on 10-10-2009 by Dramey]

You'll make some great points and I can't really find anything to completely disagree with.

Training should be a no brainer. Is it too easy to own a gun, much like it's too easy to own a drivers license?

And you're right it's not the GUNS fault, much like it's not the cars fault when you run someone over. We're not going to ban cars, as much as I'd like to, at least in cities.

My point really is that it is the fault of society, gun ownership laws are way to liberal. Our exceptance of guns is way too liberal, the fault of movies and such imo.

It's a difficult one for me, on the one hand I believe in the right for people to own, and do, whatever they want as long it doesn't effect other people, but on the other hand can we trust ourselves to allow such freedoms?

If you look at it more people die from guns in situations other than random stranger on stranger killings, so logically gun ownership causes more death than gun crime on strangers, such as house invasions.

I also don't buy that without guns we wouldn't be safe. The US has one of the highest crime rates in the world. Some countries with no guns have very low crime rates. I also don't agree that if guns were banned only criminals would own them. That might be true at first but eventually, as guns are no longer manufactured and distributed and are confiscated from criminals, the supply would dry up.

I believe it's paranoia, about over hyped crime from the media, that fuels the constant fear of being a victim that pervades society, and causes you to want to arm yourselves to the teeth. The chance of you being the victim of gun crime is extremely rare, but the media makes you fear constantly from a perceived threat that is just not realistic.

Originally posted by ANOK
Training should be a no brainer. Is it too easy to own a gun, much like it's too easy to own a drivers license?

That is it right there. I am not sure that anything should ever be banned but there should definitely be tighter restrictions on who can have certain things. Idiots that shoot at any noise downstairs without at least checking to see if your bed is empty are a good example.

Originally posted by SpacePunk
or gun culture. Blame it on blatant stupidity.

That is the gun culture. If it were not that way, every idiot with an index finger would not think he can just get a gun and be superman. In a non- gun culture, they just might be respected as they should be.