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reply to post by Zosynspiracy

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At least the Chinese people know that they are not free. Americans think they still are.

reply to post by dean007

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China is booming in the metropolitan areas so yes, many Chinese are able to afford things just like the rest of the civilized world.....In fact, probably moreso now than most of the people that I personally know here in the US.

And you really can't effectively post here on ATS if you're going to let words like "gonads" get to you. Check the T&S because i'm fairly certain that you just violated it with your language.

reply to post by dean007

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do the Chinese even make enough money to even have any to spend at a mall if your only paying people pennies you cant expect them to come around throwing out dollars does a meal at Macdonald's cost 8 dollars like it does in Canada it would take them like 3 days labor to buy a supper for 1 at mcdonalds

I can tell someone has not been to China lately. The middle class here have money and in quantity. Can we say BMW, Benz, Toyota, Honda, GM, Porsche just to name a few in the car line not to mention the exotics. Oh and BTW, they pay cash for them. Come to the local mall and see consumerism at its finest!! But don't expect to see them using a credit card when they buy an item. Yes they do have credit cards but use cash for most purchases.

I feel sorry for you having to pay 8 dollars for a super at Mac D's, it costs me about 3 dollars here in Zhongshan. Yep we got KFC, Subway and Pizza Hut too. Mater of fact we have more products from around the world available to us than the US has. China is not exactly what you think it is.

reply to post by CriticalThinking

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Wah wah wah. America's and China's economy are fake.

All this thread has turned into is pseudo-patriots bashing each others nation. A few good points were raised though. For one, China is falling into the same trap as seen in Las Vegas and Dubai. I like to call it the three-toos: too much, too quickly, too soon. (For an interesting look at the situation in Vegas, click here).

Although someone did raise the issue that China should have looked to the current situation in the US of what NOT to do with large-scale development, we have to remember that a project this size is not developed in one month. That is to say, the current world economic downturn was not foreseen when this project was started, and certainly not when it was in it's planning stages.

I predict that while the World gets back on its feet, that this mall will continue to sit stagnant and unused. However, China will not allow this project to go to waste, and will probably be able to sustain it until it is more viable for major world companies to set up shop there.

I wish them all the best.

[edit on 10/11/2009 by prototism]

reply to post by silent thunder

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like it said in the beginning, all they need is a freeway or airport, no freeway or airport and no business.

Businesses operated such as this mall are normal in a system of socialism and communism. Many places like this (far from biggest in the world though) existed in Serbia, Russia, Libya, Cuba etc. They end up abandoned and left for nature to take over.

To further prove my point, take a look at these dramatic pictures:
englishrussia.com...

You will see why Soviet Union collapsed, picture says more than thousand words.

That system functions via debt as well as US capitalism does with its federal reserve. The system can only work for as long as its slaves will obey, the huge stagnant businesses like that mall are standing on the back of the people.
The communism of China is bound to collapse sooner or later, it simply cannot function because it is a painfully obvious fraud which only relies on people's will to subject themselves to extreme slavery. When people of China realise that communist party is a brain-infecting parasite world will be a better place.

That is why your own federal reserve cannot function, if it continues to print money to support stagnant and non productive businesses, people will realise sooner or later that their living standard can only go worse and worse after a certain point.
Some major corporations in US are working same as that mall, but not as apparent. The mall of China may look creepy, but what in reality is way, way more creepy are huge insurance and loan corporations which make billions in US by exploiting the concept of federal reserve.

To conclude, the point is that capitalism of US is NOT capitalism for the last hundred years, it is a subtle and perfected socialism with only one aim - to serve the elite, be it communist party, democratic party or republican party. All those parties are parasites which like in nature, infect the host and eventually kill it. Solution to this problem is not revolution, or government-less society or some other radical move, but a change towards greatly improved education and people *actually* having a vote in everything.

Guangzhou is China´s third most populous city with an official 9,764,500 million inhabitants, some estimates going up to over 15 million.
Only Shanghai and Beijing are bigger.

It is bigger than America´s biggest city.

Certainly there would be enough people and money to spend in the mall.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
I live in Alberta, Canada.

How big is West Edmonton Mall?
It's biggest in Canada, for sure. I thought 3rd in the world?

I'm from Edmonton, Alberta and the WEM is more than just the "biggest in Canada" my Canadian friend. According to Forbes.com (last year), it's the biggest mall in North America:

West Edmonton Mall
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Year Opened: 1981
Gross Leasable Area: 3.8 million square feet

The biggest in North America, the West Edmonton Mall has over 800 stores, along with attractions like a water park, skating rink, casino and rides.

Let's not forget the sea lions, lemurs, skateboard park, and life-size pirate ship!

Wikipedia confirms this and states that the WEM is the 5th largest in the world.

So even though it doesn't hold the world top 3 ranking any longer, at least it's still the biggest on the North American continent.

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