Why do cells mutate into cancer cells?, page 1
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reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 05:39 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Maddogkull



Every cell in your body contains the blue print for cancerous cells. If you are an evolutionist you could argue that this is simply the "trial and error" process of evolution. Defects come with the box type deal.

Cancer (medical term: malignant neoplasm) is a class of diseases in which a group of cells display uncontrolled growth (division beyond the normal limits), invasion (intrusion on and destruction of adjacent tissues), and sometimes metastasis (spread to other locations in the body via lymph or blood). These three malignant properties of cancers differentiate them from benign tumors, which are self-limited, and do not invade or metastasize. Most cancers form a tumor but some, like leukemia, do not. The branch of medicine concerned with the study, diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of cancer is oncology.

Nearly all cancers are caused by abnormalities in the genetic material of the transformed cells.[4] These abnormalities may be due to the effects of carcinogens, such as tobacco smoke, radiation, chemicals, or infectious agents. Other cancer-promoting genetic abnormalities may be randomly acquired through errors in DNA replication, or are inherited, and thus present in all cells from birth. The heritability of cancers is usually affected by complex interactions between carcinogens and the host's genome. New aspects of the genetics of cancer pathogenesis, such as DNA methylation, and microRNAs are increasingly recognized as important.

Genetic abnormalities found in cancer typically affect two general classes of genes. Cancer-promoting oncogenes are typically activated in cancer cells, giving those cells new properties, such as hyperactive growth and division, protection against programmed cell death, loss of respect for normal tissue boundaries, and the ability to become established in diverse tissue environments. Tumor suppressor genes are then inactivated in cancer cells, resulting in the loss of normal functions in those cells, such as accurate DNA replication, control over the cell cycle, orientation and adhesion within tissues, and interaction with protective cells of the immune system.


Cancer

There's your basic cancer info, it really is a mystery as to the primary cause, but further research will eventually give us the answer.

~Keeper


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 05:55 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Maddogkull



Well, to tell you the truth, we humans don't really know anything about the complex systems that make up the Earth and it's inhabitants.

We are a mold of the environment around us, and that environment is the biggest factor when it comes to these kind of cell mutations.

~Keeper


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 06:00 PM by Maddogkull
reply to post by dooper



Care to explain more of this treatment?? I was watching Truthseekers, just 10 minutes ago, and its interesting how you bring this up. Are you referring to Qigong?


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 06:15 PM by dooper
reply to post by Maddogkull


A Dr. Becker discovered the body's ability to replicate tissue, how the body heals itself, and the electrical nature of the process.

In his experiments, he used low amperage DC current. And did amazing things.

But standard, transverse electromagnetics are mostly non-penetrating.

To get to all the cells, you need a method that is highly linear, and thus, penetrating.

The trick is to use linear em energy, and within a few carrier waves, you can include multiple, specific frequencies.

Just a hint. Plasma is the fourth state of matter, and has the unique ability to convert transverse electromagnetic waves in to scalar electromagnetic radiant energy.

I'm making a special trip all the way across the country to acquire some more. I burned mine out and with the swine flu, and a friend who has extreme spinal problems, I can't wait much longer.

I had to sign a non-disclosure agreement, and then SWEAR to never reveal the source in order to get this.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 06:18 PM by broli
This might be a good start;

www.cancertutor.com...

There are a few explanation on the cause of it which may all be part of the same cycle. Going from cells suffocating due to lack of oxygen which is caused by nutritional lacking diets to a certain bacteria being part of spreading cancerous cells around.

Then there's the special cases like children and radiation. Which may have a different explanation.

If you do the research you'll discover quiet fast that cancer treatment is one big scam. Most cancers can be cured easily if you know the main reasons behind it. Highly nutritional diets and omega 3 fatty acids (flax oil for one) are part of the cure. But don't expect this info from big pharma, it's illegal to talk about a cure for cancer.

[edit on 10-10-2009 by broli]



reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 06:24 PM by dooper
reply to post by broli



You are precisely correct.

It's illegal to speak of cancer cures unless you're a licensed, medical practitioner.

They will crucify you if you attempt to alter the status quo.

Too much money involved.

Every cancer patient is $250,000 + on the hoof.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 06:44 PM by dooper
reply to post by Maddogkull


kA friend who knows a lot about this tried once to describe to me a Master Cellular Control Center.

Sometimes for multiple reasons, things go wrong. Not according to the cellular blueprint. But when you use this "thing," it time reverses the cellular damage. Not time reverse as in Star Trek, but time reverse as in scalar electromagnetics.

You'll note that cancer while not genetic, has genetic propensities.

And I don't know why kids suffer so. My grandson had leukemia, and I saw all those poor kids suffering. They were more brave and tougher than their parents.

Oh. My grandson is well now.

Look at the baking soda/maple syrup. Can't hurt. Look at nanosilver.

Do NOT buy any of the current Rife/Crane devices. They're frequency based, which is NOT what Rife was doing, in spite of copies of his lab notes.

That junk on the internet is crap, and based on the wrong principle.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 07:01 PM by dooper
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa


That''s not entirely correct.

I have volumes in my library, that show the voltage drop, and the specific voltage of cancer cells.

But I'm too damned tired to dig it out right now, so I'll give you the point if you persist.

It's just that I know better, and I know that by spiking cellular voltage, we reversed out a bad lung cancer and one leukemia.

Both friends. The only two we tried it on.

I know, I know. That's no proof.

But I'm not getting into the other things.

You believe as you wish.

We do impossible things based on what we know.



reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 07:19 PM by dooper
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa


Adenonsinetriphosphate.

The typical cell transmembrane potential ranges between -50mV and -90mV, with an average somewhere around -70mV.

If a cell is damaged or diseased, the transmembrane potential drops to around -15mV until cellular division is complete.

Oddly, cancer cells have transmembrane potentials of around -15mV.

If external voltage is introduced, it causes the transmembrane potential to increase, or become hyperpolarized.

The increase in voltage causes the potassium to migrate in and the sodium out - naturally. In effect, it drives the cellular pump in reverse.

Which causes the cell to actually manufacture ATP, not consume ATP. Since ATP is cellular fuel, this hyperpolarizatino actually charges up the cells by literally refueling them.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 07:26 PM by VneZonyDostupa

Adenonsinetriphosphate.


What about ATP? It's an energy source. *shrug*

The typical cell transmembrane potential ranges between -50mV and -90mV, with an average somewhere around -70mV.


The -50 and -90 values are for two DIFFERENT cell types, so no, the "typical" cell membrane potential doesn't fluctuate between these. A given cell type has a VERY specific resting potential that does not vary unless in disease state.

If a cell is damaged or diseased, the transmembrane potential drops to around -15mV until cellular division is complete.


Not necessarily true. It can hyperpolarize, as well. This shif tin voltage, however, leads to death due to a disproportionate ionic and concentration gradient. The idea that the resting potential rises to this level before division is a bit sketchy. I'd need to see documentation, if you would be so kind.

Oddly, cancer cells have transmembrane potentials of around -15mV.


Again, I would need a source for this, as I cannot find any literature to support it.

If external voltage is introduced, it causes the transmembrane potential to increase, or become hyperpolarized.


An increase in membrane potential (moving in the positive direction) is called depolarization. A decrease in membrane potential (moving in the negative direction) is hyperpolarization. Going from -15mv to -70mv is hyperpolarization, not depolarization.

Which causes the cell to actually manufacture ATP, not consume ATP. Since ATP is cellular fuel, this hyperpolarizatino actually charges up the cells by literally refueling them.


This isn't true. The source of energy for ATP generation is the proton pump in mitochondria. These protons are derived from the oxidation of glucose.





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