They’re Here! Obama Disinformation Agents Are Actively Posting Against Critics, page 3


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reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 10:51 AM by Angus123
Originally posted by traderjack
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post by Angus123



And here is a prime example. Wonder who pays your meal ticket?


Oh I work for a special division of the CIA. We swoop in and kidnap tea partiers in black helicopters and are waiting with baited breath to take away your guns.

Oh... and we want to force abortions on everyone but Muslims and death panels are real, lol.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 10:52 AM by traderjack
Originally posted by Angus123
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post by InSpiteOf



Dude, most Americans nowadays won't even understand your points.
Willful ignorance has become a virtue here. The land of the free and the home of the dumbed-down I'm afraid.

But hey, wasn't M'urkan Idol great the other night?


There's that nice generalization, "most Americans". Oh tell us Yoda of Liberal Virtue. Who are most Americans?


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 11:00 AM by Aliensun
It is totally silly to suggest that someone without a profile is ...well, up to no good on any list. Given what I see with all of the left column displays exhibited here for ego's sake, the first thing that a spy would do would be to order up a nice, eye-catching one to add weight to their professed opinions.

As for the increase in posting of those with mal purposes (more or less). Understand that never before as any President had such a youthful following. These young minds use the internet, etc. unlike....say, their parents. So it is obvious that the traffic is going to start being slewed toward positive views from that side.

And I laugh to read that ATS is 75% liberal. Where or where did that concept come from?

The Israeli government has publically stated that they have hired young people to put a positive spin on all things kosher. Undoubtedly, we do the same and have done the same especially in the UFO info area.

Any brand of these folks will be tough to battle because it is their job, not just a afterwork pasttime. Consider for example, that a properly organized unit (whether they worked in a call center or in their "home office" will have the capability to tap into a database (library) where they can quickly find material that only a few of us have the tenacity to do on our own before we tire of the thread/argument. Plus, they will have researchers on tap that will track down data/info that is not quickly found on the internet.

Anyone that has had a close association with the UFO topic for many years will be the first to agree that there are disinformation units out there, far more active, far more sophisticated, and in far more areas than ever before.

OK, so I confused profile with those displays in the left column. Same difference.



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reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 11:10 AM by groingrinder
reply to post by OzWeatherman



You are very smart!! I applaud you. Of course there are those of us who will oppose any president who is from the two criminal gangs known as Democrats and Republicans. It is up to the people to hold their governments accountable for their actions.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 11:15 AM by traderjack
reply to post by Angus123



I don't watch Faux news. And unlike most folks raised in the fine public (gubament) school systems, I recieved my education in the Trivium and Quadrivium in a little, old second rate private skewl.

Moreover, I'm almost certain that I've read more Marx, Mao, Dubois, and El Hajj Malik than you.

Growing a soul patch and bitching about the 'capitalist swine' while slacking at the coffee shop doesn't make you socialist anymore than owning firearms and a bible makes a person a right wing 'kook'.

You never back your sycophantic pro-Obama rants with any facts. It's always, "you right wing wing nuts say or do this," followed by psuedo-intellectual barbs that accomplish jack-sh*t. And only make the 'conservatives' on this board distrust your cause even more.

For a voice from the party of inclusion, you sure can't wait to exclude anyone who does think just like you.

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reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 11:29 AM by Hemisphere
reply to post by jdub297



I agree with your observations jdub. I think it is a combo of disinfo agents as well as members that sign up under multiple guises and then can double team opposing views as well as agree with their own posts so as to have their positions appear to be more widely accepted. Largely empty user profiles are indicative of this behavior. We can also expect profiles of this type to diminish with this attention. And so expect fully fledged phony profiles down the road.

Propaganda spread on the Internet requires little effort and investment to achieve a return. I think ATS has professional propagandists as well as their targets at times targeting the forum. The discussions here have little effect on the issues at large but...... well conceived and presented oppositions are gathered by this trolling and they then can be preemptively attacked in the real world/MSM before being widely presented.

"There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it." -William James

"All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those toward whom it is directed will understand it... Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise." - Adolph Hitler

Sound familiar?


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 11:30 AM by finnegan
jdub,

I stopped posting to this forum a long time ago because of all the disinfo and valid sources. It became so difficult to sort through all of the pointless topics to find anything interest. So I saw your topic claiming disinfo agents are here, not asking the question are they here, as though I am supposed to read this thread and be shown incontrovertible evidence. But again to my dissappointment the evidence is not there.

The tool of propaganda has been used historically by administrations, maybe all of them, I have no idea. It was used most conspicuously by the previous administration. You have claimed that they admit to doing this. I would like to see where they have done so.

Another claim you make is that bloggers break stories that the msm and that many blogs are not worth the paper they are printed on. I would say that nearly 99% of blogs are not worth the effort. Bloggers are not held to the same scrutiny as msm. They can write whatever they want and generally the more shocking recieve more web traffic so they have the encouragement to write any shocking stories whether true or not. Also bloggers do not have access to the infrastructure necessary to break legitimate stories. They are usually discovered by msm first.

You claim that the DOJ has hired bloggers, so I decided to look deeper into this. Were these writers being used against the American people to spread propaganda? I found they did hire bloggers because they have a blog on there website, how novel.
blogs.usdoj.gov...



reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 11:30 AM by traderjack
reply to post by Angus123



That's hysterical, little personal jabs about my intellect and comparisons to your poor canine companion. Point of fact, you have 'mentioned Obama'. You don't want to get in a debate with me because like most of the 'mindless minions' (BTW I find it ironic that you would call anyone a mindless minion.) I can back my assertions with evidence and facts.

The "conservative news" that you blather about got their information straight from the DOJ. They took the time to expose news that isn't going to be covered on CNN or Fox.

Good luck with your continued disinformation.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 11:41 AM by Angus123
Originally posted by traderjack
reply to
post by Angus123



That's hysterical, little personal jabs about my intellect and comparisons to your poor canine companion. Point of fact, you have 'mentioned Obama'. You don't want to get in a debate with me because like most of the 'mindless minions' (BTW I find it ironic that you would call anyone a mindless minion.) I can back my assertions with evidence and facts.

The "conservative news" that you blather about got their information straight from the DOJ. They took the time to expose news that isn't going to be covered on CNN or Fox.

Good luck with your continued disinformation.


Aww thanks sweetness. Maybe we can grab a cup of coffee sometime? I think I need more intellectuals in my life.

Until then can you show me which of these posts I mentioned Obama in?
I mean you wouldn't have said it if it wasn't true right?

And thanks for pointing out my fear of debating you. You're right... I could never win.
(Think hard now... you'll understand my meaning if you try, lol)


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 12:09 PM by detachedindividual
reply to post by jdub297



The thing is, it seems logical doesn't it?

I mean, if there isn't any concrete proof of it, you have to go by your intelligence and critical thinking, and that common sense alone suggests that it is going on.

I simply view this as one of those things I assumed we all knew, but couldn't really prove.

It's not nice at all, but they are certainly here, defending Obama to the limits of sanity.
I think it's just one of those things that we can blatantly see, and when we do see it, they should be called on it.
You can see new posters, and you can see where they are blatantly creating propaganda and spin, just block them.
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