I'm a US citizen myself so don't accuse me of being anti-American. I'm wondering what gives us special status. What gives us the right to topple foreign governments in continuous violations of international law. What gives us the right to interfere in the Democracy of other nations? What gives us the right to tell other nations who can or cannot be extradited? Why are we so well liked when the citizens of our nation are so far in debt that many can barely afford to make a living? What gives us the right to dominate the world when we barely have a hold on our own nation?

might is right.the u.s has overwhelming military power and they are not shy about using it.
once you have the means, you cna find any old reason.

The more one thinks about the very questions you stated, the more sinister it all becomes. The political and economical climate is rising, right now its already stiflingly hot and its not going to cool down in the coming years. Something is in the works, the propaganda machine operates at full stretch, freedoms are lost from one second to another, and the majority of people have their heads in the sand.

Whats next?

I stood up once and said I did, I took a oath that demands I do.
and we once had a president Kennedy who order me to.
and we havent elected a president since... so, as far as I'm concerned.
pass the ammo - freedom is within our grasps....

We saved Europe a couple of times and we some pretty big bombs.

$600 + Billion dollar defense budget.

Its the fact that america commits the most horrific acts of violence on earth and can get away with it with immunity.

In ww2 america must of done the most horrific things imaginable to people, but hollywood has that lost in time, with there romantic, america comes to save the day rubbish.

Get it, america is the big bully of the world, and being the police too, means it can do what it wants, and it also has the propaganda machine to back it up.

[edit on 10/9/2009 by andy1033]

Originally posted by andy1033
In ww2 america must of done the most horrific things imaginable to people, but hollywood has that lost in time, with there romantic, america comes to save the day rubbish.

Get it, america is the big bully of the world, and being the police too, means it can do what it wants, and it also has the propaganda machine to back it up.

Well if they "EU/Asia" or any of the other remaining industrialized nations would grow a pair and help us out more then we wouldn't seem to be the only ones out there. {World Police} It's not just our interests we have been protecting but most of the G-7 nations. Remember them? Now that it went to G8/G20 now a strong US isn't fashionable. It's funny when everybody needs help who's the first one they call when it serves their interests? But when it becomes politically incorrect to support the US we get thrown under the bus and all the things that supported the EU/Asia's rise in peace, stability and wealth is now thrown on our laps as proof of our evil empire.

As far as that demonstration of the most horrific things. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were small potatoes compared to the fact that we were already destroying a city a day in Japan with conventional bombers. May I remind you that we weren't the ones shoveling men, women and children into ovens or gassing them by the thousands nor did we try to exterminate people on the eastern front or later behind the Iron curtain.

Were we the ones butchering hundreds of thousands or more in China? Not to mention turning thousand of Koreans into prostitutes to serve the imperial army of Japan. Wait! Let me ask you this since you seem to know so much about history. Who exactly supplied weapons in lend lease? Then threw themselves into battle to help liberate Europe and Asia when they weren't our fight? Then later supplied Europe and Japan with the means to rebuild themselves after WWII?

Let's fast forward to the Cold war. Yeah the rest of the world enjoys it's lifeline of oil {Just dont ask how it got there} and commerce on the high seas and as long as it flowed everything is OK. Lets not consider who stood watch when Europe couldn't really stand on it's own against the overwhelming Soviets and Eastern Warsaw pact countries. Who was it again they turned to? Shall we talk about the Berlin airlift? Under American influence the world has reached the highest standard of living the Earth has ever seen.

Now that everybody has that highest standard of living and have lived in peace {Europe/Asia} for the longest period in recent history. Now all of sudden let's attack those Arrogant Americans. Yeah we are down. Now is when we will know who our real allies are. We faced the communist Chinese in Korea. The Koreans are still divided. The South is one of the wealthiest and most advanced societies in Asia, {Not to mention Japan and now China's rise} while North Korea is a Nuclear armed outcast. We won the cold war. China is now capitalist and the Soviet union is gone. You live somewhere free and can speak your mind freely online.

When you finally pull your head out of your backside think about how the world would have been under Communism. We have a very real history of how they handled Eastern Europe or China under Mao. Stop making embarrassing and unfounded statements may I suggest a trip to a library of your choice and actually cracking open a history book.

Instead of all this lip flapping BS.

What gives the US special status?
American Boots on the ground! Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and now Afghanistan. Unlike the former Soviet who fought theirs through Proxies. It wasn't until they joined the fun in Afghanistan that they knew what those proxies cost! We held the line! Our hands are bloody but so are everybody Else's who are now enjoying the fruits of a free and prosperous Earth. Europe, Asia, Africa, Central and South America. Esp those countries who now appose us and the US dollar.

Brazil, Russia, India and China! If it wasn't for the American Blue collar worker [Joe Sixpack} buying their products and services they never would have flourished!

Joe sixpack AKA Average American

Semper Fidelis



[edit on 9-10-2009 by SLAYER69]

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
I'm a US citizen myself so don't accuse me of being anti-American. I'm wondering what gives us special status. What gives us the right to topple foreign governments in continuous violations of international law. What gives us the right to interfere in the Democracy of other nations? What gives us the right to tell other nations who can or cannot be extradited? Why are we so well liked when the citizens of our nation are so far in debt that many can barely afford to make a living? What gives us the right to dominate the world when we barely have a hold on our own nation?

Boo-

Man, is this just a rant?

Seriously, I live in one of the most liberal cities in the US (it loves its protests) and I still know better than to rage against "the machine" or rant against "the man" or rally against "whatever the trending topic of the day" is, without having anything to back it up... What you've put forth is a jumbled mess and could easily be divided into 6+ different threads and it would still be, just a rant.

For the future, maybe some questions to think about having answers to, before starting the thread...

1. which foreign governments are you inferring the US is toppling?
2. which international laws are the US continuously breaking?
3. which Democratic government of which country/s is the US interfering?
4. which extradition situation are you referring?
5. who are we so well liked by and what does that have to do with citizen debt? how are these two questions related?
6. dominating the world how? economically? militarily? politically? etc. etc. etc.

Look, not everybody is going to agree, but at the very least, post something solid backing your point of view.





[edit on 10-10-2009 by LadySkadi]

Originally posted by hans kammler
might is right.the u.s has overwhelming military power and they are not shy about using it.
once you have the means, you cna find any old reason.

With that logic we would have attacked Iran or Korea a long time ago.

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
I'm a US citizen myself so don't accuse me of being anti-American.

Defensive in first line of post????

Originally posted by jpvskyfreak
You need to look at the HDI Index

The HDI combines normalized measures of life expectancy, educational attainment, and GDP per capita for countries worldwide. It is claimed as a standard means of measuring human development—a concept that, according to the United Nations Development Program (UNDP), refers to the process of widening the options of persons, giving them greater opportunities for education, health care, income, employment, etc. The HDI attempts to measure a country's development.

Thanks for the info how would any of that been possible under a proven Communist system?


[edit on 9-10-2009 by SLAYER69]

The USA was set up for that purpose a long time ago. That said, the higher powers are protecting this country and letting the overactive miscreant children run wild for awhile. A lot of change is taking place as the karma is being played out quickly. The world has been set up to look at the USA as opportunity and now they are being weened off of the USA to look kindly on a world government. But the smarter parts of the world are wising up to the whole scam. Time will tell.

Well lets take a peek at what other countries are doing that we might want to asked them to stop?

Shamsia is the 17-year-old young woman who had acid thrown into her face in November, to punish her because she wanted an education

A Saudi court is scheduled next month to look into a divorce plea from an eight-year-old girl married off by her father to a man in his fifties

According to Amnesty International as of February 2005 more than 370 young women and girls had been murdered in the cities of Ciudad Juarez and Chihuahua.

side note since the start of the Mexican drug war no one counts anymore... Ciudad Juarez has around 250 murders per month now so counting is pointless...

27 Iranians sentenced to death in connection with protests following disputed presidential elections

Bosnia and Herzegovina conflict still waiting for justice, Successive governments have failed to provide justice, reparation, adequate healthcare to thousands of women and girls raped during the country's 1992-1995 war

you do know we could do this all day... maybe some governments need to be toppled?

Originally posted by andy1033
Its the fact that america commits the most horrific acts of violence on earth and can get away with it with immunity.

In ww2 america must of done the most horrific things imaginable to people, but hollywood has that lost in time, with there romantic, america comes to save the day rubbish.

Watch Saving Private Ryan. Count how many unarmed surrendering germans they killed. War crime?

CT