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Iran to 'blow up heart' of Israel if attacked

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posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by disfugured
I simply responded to a response in that post, or did you neglect to read what I was responding towards originally ? Meaning, I did not initially bring that into the conversation.


I have no idea what that babble means. The topic of this thread is the latest Iranian threat against the US and Israel, let's keep it there.



No, I'm talking about Israel forcing a stike on Iran if they dont stop building nuclear facilities that Iran wants to use for neclear power.


And as usual you assign zero blame to the Iranians for saying that they will "destroy the heart of Israel". Is it that you think that whatever they say, it's justified and all the Israelis fault. In your eyes do the Iranians not have any blame in this, no matter who they threaten to annihilate?

I'm completely baffled by your almost messianic bias. I'm happy to criticize the Israelis, they should have been prevented from developing their own bomb, but it's 20 years too late for that argument.



No, because not all of the United Nations support such actions albeit, most do.



As a body, the United Nations has issued sanctions against Iran and condemned their nuclear program based on the independent IAEA reports. The VAST majority of members support this decision.

This is not about America and Israel - don't you get it, the WORLD is condemning their pursuit of atomic energy because of what their regime says and does.




Same as you. I just happen to see things with both perspectives and sift through the BS.


I disagree, you apply one set of spectacles when viewing Israeli and US acts, and one when viewing Iranian acts.

If this statement had come from a US official I would have condemned it, as would you with even greater intensity. But have you uttered one single criticism of it, coming as it does from an Iranian official? No, you are actually defending it.

There's the truth of your unbiased analysis.





LMAO!

Again, you used biased Western MSM as your source where it doesnt show it come directly from his mouth. I'll link a few for ya where what he says is interpreted live. The words in your link are written in the biased hands of a western reporter/journalist and is very misinterpreted.

Says he did not say the holocaust didnt happen. He has asked questions about it and these western reporters twist things around. He wants to research the holocaust in more detail.



Good grief, not again with this "it's all a case of misunderstood translation" crap.

I myself, with my own eyes watched Ahmedenijad refuse to answer a direct question about whether he believed in the Holocaust.

If he believed it, why would he be calling for "additional research".

The truth is of course much simpler as is so often the case. Ahmedenijad has shifted his approach from outright denial, such as that contained in his now infamous letter to Angela Merkel in 2006, a letter so offensive to Jews that she simply refused to reply to it, to his current position where he claims that the world wide opposition to researching the Holocaust demonstrates the likelihood of a cover-up.

If you buy into that, and think that this man is anything other than a raving anti-semite with nuclear ambitions, supported by officials capable only of threatening Israel with annihilation, then you, along with the rest of us are going to learn some very painful lessons about how things end when you allow racists to own nuclear weapons.

Perhaps when Tel Aviv is a smoking cinder, you'll be satisfied that right has been done.

[edit on 9-10-2009 by Retseh]




posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by Retseh

Originally posted by mkross1983

If Iran attacked Israel, the US and Israel would turn Iran into a glass parking lot.

WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?


That's just your opinion, and as such has no basis in fact.

Iran on the other hand continues to publically state that it will destroy Israel.

You really don't seem to get it do you, do you think that we all just woke up one day loving Israelis?

Personally I have no feelings for Israel one way or the other, but I do recognize the stink of a cancer like Iran when I smell it, and that makes the placement of allegiances pretty simple.

Others it seems like regimes who hang 16 year old girls for being raped, stone men to death for having gay sex, and issue random threats about destroying other countries while simultaneously developing nuclear weapons.

Seriously, what's up with you people?

[edit on 9-10-2009 by Retseh]


And I guess it is just your opinion that Iran is making nuclear bombs seeing as how you have absolutely zero evidence to support your claim.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by mattpryor
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge
 


I'm sure someone will tell you that quote is a mistranslation


Poor misunderstood Ahmadinejad...


It is a mistranslation, it's a documented fact with evidence to back it up unlike others who claim Iran is making nukes with no evidence to support such claims.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by bigyin
Israel better listen up ... Iran will be no push over. Bombing unarmed women and children in Gaza is one thing, but taking on somebody your own size is a whole different ballgame. I just hope the Jews in Israel say something before all hell breaks loose.

And while that is going on Hammas will be having an orgasm.


I wonder what you'll all be saying if iran lives up to all of its rhetoric and attacks Israel first - as the other muslim countries in the area have often done?

Why do I think you'll conveniently choose to ignore that Israeli women and children are now dead and be having your own "orgasms" because you think Israel had it coming?

Hypocrisy alert ...



Why is it ok if Israel attacks Iran first other than the other way around?



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Wormwood Squirm
reply to post by disfugured
 

Iran needs to realize that the powerful nations on this earth have said, "NO". They are not listening. They are defiant. Nothing changes who is powerful on this planet today. Iran must listen or they will get slapped around.

Neither the US or Israel has had their testicles removed. They have big kahunas and will bark and growl and if you don't heed those warnings then you will be bitten.

Iran is making things worse instead of better. Why doesn't Iran just say OK? After they get chomped half to death they will say OK like a little wimp. Iran is on the wrong track and now seem to be ripping off their shirt and holding up their fists like dummies.

My money is on Iran losing by knockout in the first round.


I remember a country a couple hundred years ago telling another country no...now who was it...



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by disfugured

Last I checked, Iran has not invaded another country since before the first Bible was written.


And if they do not plan to attack, why all the rhetoric saying they will wipe countries off the face of the earth.

Sit on that for a moment.



[edit on 10/9/2009 by centurion1211]

This was mistranslated. Do a google search and in five milliseconds you'll see links providing you with this update.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by centurion1211
I wonder what you'll all be saying if iran lives up to all of its rhetoric and attacks Israel first - as the other muslim countries in the area have often done?


a) how often was Israel invaded by muslims in the past 30 years? You specifically used the word "often", so I need to ask.


Your choice of 30 years is completely arbitrary and conveniently skips the time period just before that (1948 through 1973) when the muslim nations DID often attack Israel.


You mean the time period land was stolen from another country and the original people were being kicked out? That time period?



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by Retseh

Originally posted by mkross1983

If Iran attacked Israel, the US and Israel would turn Iran into a glass parking lot.

WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?


That's just your opinion, and as such has no basis in fact.

Iran on the other hand continues to publically state that it will destroy Israel.


[edit on 9-10-2009 by Retseh]


Have you heard of the word context and do you know what it means?



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by Retseh

Originally posted by buddhasystem
Nobody likes any of that, but bombing the hell out of the country you are trying to "save" from this savagery seems like a stupid idea.


Could you provide details of this bombing, I seem to have missed that in the news.

How many Iranians were killed?


You know that was in regards to if we go to war with Iran. I see you signed up on ATS in 2006. Wow long time. Too bad you haven't learned anything while you were here.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by Retseh

Originally posted by disfugured
Show a link to back what you just stated. You just stated rhetoric bs published on the MS media. Show me one link where those very words were used by Irans PM.


You do know that he is a Holocaust denier, right? No one has any ambiguity about his statements on that one, do you?


Man, you sure do spread a lot of Disinfo around here.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Wormwood Squirm
reply to post by disfugured
 


you are so Anti-American and have very little real knowledge of this issue so I am now going to put you on ignore.


Disfigured I support you, keep posting, you're doing an awesome job, I've starred you a couple times going through this crap trying to get updated. Can't believe the amount of garbage people believe in this thread.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by pavil
reply to post by Eye On War
 



Ummm......wouldn't that "heart" be the Temple Mount?


Gotta love those wacky Iranians.....they will take down their own holy sites to get the Jews..


When you say Jews I'm assuming you mean the people threatening to attack them?



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by Retseh

Originally posted by disfugured
I'm obviously reffering to the latter.


Of course you are, because it has nothing to do with this thread, just as I suspected.




The truth of the matter is; Iran is being threatened every day by both Israel and the US.


If by "threatened" you mean "told to stop their nuclear program", then yes.



Kinda hard to stop doing something you're not doing eh? Maybe they should waterboard Iran until it "confesses"...?



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by Max_TO
 


Israel size
8,000 sq miles (Israel could fit into Florida 8 times) but is expanding all the time
263 miles long – North to South
Width: between 9 and 71 miles wide (East to West)
Israel Area - comparative: slightly smaller than New Jersey


BUT this is exactly the same rhetoric thats been repeated for the last 5 or more years - in 2001 iran wasn`t even mentioned and were working with the USA in afghanistan to hunt the taliban

www.antiwar.com...

in 2009 they are suddenly the enemy.

its all a game

[edit on 9/10/09 by Harlequin]


Yes, you are correct. A big political game.

And your other post people should look as well and is something I've pointed out.

5% enrichment is not 95% needed for nukes so...



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes
We (the non-paranoid, non-america-hating west) just want to make sure we are not surprised by a nuclear attack.

In the past we have been gullible, believing that various tyrants want peace when they say they want peace. We are distrustful of Irans intentions.

We are Bush supporters, Obama supporters, Americans, Europeans, Israelis and we just want to make sure we`re safe. And if provocation and disinformation from Iran continues, diplomacy will have to be replaced by destroying the nuclear facilities.

Sorry, cant be helped.


Stupid prat is about all I want to say - but I guess I should respond fully.

Surprised by a nuclear attack? Damn right I would be surprised if Iran made a nuclear attack, when it has nil, nix, zero chance of ever making any fissionable material - let alone bombs. The inspectors are crawling all over it constantly - everything there is being watched like a hawk from space - hoping to god they can find an excuse to attack. Yes, Id be surprised.

In the past you've been gullible? Well - I cannot argue with that - you believe all the stupid US propaganda you are fed. What 'various tyrants' have ever said they want peace, then attacked the US mainland? None.

You aren't distrustful of Irans intentions - because you obviously know nothing about Irans intentions but the war propaganda spewed onto your media.

I'd love you to point out the 'provocation' and 'disinfo' from Iran. They are talking about retaliating - thats defense, not provocation. What disinfo? Correctly reporting that US and UK agents went in there and tried to incite an overthrow of their elections?

Your entire post is just rubbish - I'm offended by your ignorance.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by Retseh
I wonder how the world would react if we said "If there is one more Arab muslim attack on the United States we will destroy the heart of Iran."

Anyone with any decency should utterly condemn statements of this kind, it shouldn't matter what your politics are.


Thats just a pile of rubbish. An Arab muslim could be anyone - how about making it relevant and consistent with the original statement.

I wonder how the world would react if we said;

"Even if one Iranian missile hits our country, before the dust settles, US missiles will blow up the heart of Iran"

That reflects the original post - so how many people think that is a radical thing to say? Especially if Iran was threatening to nuke the US every day on public platforms?

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posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:55 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me if Israel let off a nuke and blamed it on Iran. It wouldn't surprise me if we fall for it, as we usually do, and come to their aid.

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posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by EMPIRE
It wouldn't surprise me if Israel let off a nuke and blamed it on Iran. It wouldn't surprise me if we fall for it, as we usually do, and come to their aid.

[edit on 9-10-2009 by EMPIRE]


I already postulated that possibility in another thread, and we need to watch out for that. It could even be a device set off in say USA and blamed on Iran, similar to the 911 false flag blamed on Iraq and Afghanistan, even though Bin Laden and the supposed hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.

However I do not believe either side would actually ignite nuclear tipped rockets. These things are monitored by satellite and whoever launches first would be on a suicide mission .... so for that reason it won't happen.

Its the same reason no nuclear strikes have taken place anywhere on the planet .... its called mutual destruction.

So we are left with conventional war tactics, and under those conditions Iran would beat Israel.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 07:36 PM
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What you say is correct, and like you I don't believe it will come from a rocket. Moreover, like I've stated in other threads, if America is hit with anything, seeks the help/aid of a friend (Israel in this case), is denied help but later turns around and helps that same friend, you will absolutely see the death of this country.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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So , how is this held in a negative perspective in comparison to Israel's Samson option . In fact , Iran's statement is only a measured response to an aggressor , not an indiscriminate strike against any and all nations ... just because if Israel cannot survive, nor should anyone else . Hypocrites .



The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well.[1] Israel refuses to admit it has nuclear weapons or to describe how it would use them, an official policy of nuclear ambiguity, also known as "nuclear opacity." This has made it difficult for anyone outside the Israeli government to definitively describe its true nuclear policy, while still allowing Israel to influence the perceptions, strategies and actions of other governments.[2]


en.wikipedia.org...



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