Iran to 'blow up heart' of Israel if attacked , page 2

reply to post by mattpryor

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Israel has nukes and has not signed the NPT.

Iran does not have nukes and has signed the NPT.

If Iran attacked Israel, the US and Israel would turn Iran into a glass parking lot.

WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?

reply to post by mattpryor

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Israelis are nervous because everyone knows they're lying. And Iran has every right to said this as not they're the ones whose are pushing for war, but they're the ones whose are willing to defend themselves.

If the Israelis are scared... well, they deserve it. I'm not going to support their war, because they have a blood lust to fulfill their fabricated prophecies.

[edit on 9-10-2009 by Sharrow]

reply to post by rugbyguitargod

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Take that pseudopatriotic military propaganda BS and shove up your starfish buddy! You nor any other step n fetch soldier doesn't protect my freedom nor my safety in this day and age. If some terrorist came in the middle of the night I'd protect my own damn self. If this country was ever actually attacked by foreign enemies myself and many other Americans would pick up arms and fight them off. Soldiers follow orders because it's a job and they get a paycheck and like me and many Americans have mouths to feed. Don't play it off as some sort of glorified wet dream where the US military is the beacon of justice in the world. Quite the opposite my friend. Soldiers and the US military don't give a damn about the Constitution. It's my kids and my grandkids that will be cleaning up YOUR MESS the blowback that is resulting from our militaristic foreign policy and policing of the world. After all those big bad terrorists are blowing themselves up constantly in our malls and soccer games right?

You're a brainwashed disgrace.

reply to post by Sharrow

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What are they lying about exactly?

If it's the fact that Iran is intent on developing nuclear weapons and is deceiving the world including its own allies (Russia and China) in the process, then they're not on their own. British, French and US intelligence concurs. We knew about Qom three years before they fessed up to it, remember.

I suspect this will descend into the usual rhetoric about Iran being peaceful and trying to defend itself, in spite of the fact that it's the world's largest sponsor of international terrorism, has no free press and brutally suppresses its own population, and no one is attacking them.

This is just another pathetic attempt to divert attention away from Iran and onto Israel to hide their own short comings.

You may fall for it, but no-one of any importance does.

reply to post by mattpryor

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Khaled Mashal?


then he`s in Syria.

and from HAMAS own pages:


linky

Hamas is a Palestinian Islamic Sunni movement which was created during the outbreak of the first Intifada in December 1987 by Sheikh Ahmad Yassin, 'Abdul 'Aziz al-Rantissi, Salah Shehadeh, Muhammad Sham'ah, 'Isa al-Nashshar, 'Abdel Fattah Dukhan and Ibrahim al-Yazuri.

born from the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood

Its a SUUNI group - diametrically opposed to SHIA muslims of iran - and only Israel are the ones bleating on about iran funding them - in reality they do not as iran funds the SHIA hezbollah.


you`ll find that its Saudi Arabia that funds them

[edit on 9/10/09 by Harlequin]

Originally posted by mattpryor
reply to post by Harlequin

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Which country is currently protecting the Hamas leader and acts as a base for Hamas Worldwide?

en.wikipedia.org...

The Council on Foreign Relations estimates Hamas's annual budget at $70 million. The largest backer of Hamas is Saudi Arabia, with over 50% of its funds coming from that country, mainly through Islamic charity organizations. An earlier estimate by GlobalSecurity.org estimated a $50 million annual budget, mostly supplied by private charitable associations but with $12 million supplied directly by Gulf states, primarily Saudi Arabia, and a further $3 million from Iran. The funding by Saudi Arabia continues despite Saudi pledges to stop funding groups such as Hamas that have used violence, and its recent denouncements of Hamas' lack of unity with Fatah.[ According to the US State Department, Hamas is funded by Iran, Palestinian expatriates, and "private benefactors in Saudi Arabia and other Arab states." However, senior British diplomat and former Ambassador to the UN Sir Jeremy Greenstock stated in an interview on the BBC Today Programme that the Hamas is not politically tied to Iran.

Various sources, including United Press International, Gérard Chaliand and L'Humanité have claimed that Hamas' early growth had been supported by the Mossad as a "counterbalance to the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)".

reply to post by Harlequin

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Iran supports Hamas because Hamas is another threat on Israel, not because they are Sunni. Strategically they have Hizbollah on northern Israeli border and Hamas on southern one. Actually Sunni Hamas in Gaza fights Sunni Al-Qaeda groups so enemy of my enemy works in this case, not religious tension.
As a side note:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed Friday to keep supporting the Palestinian militant group Hamas until the "collapse of Israel." The Iranian news agency Khabar quoted Ahmadinejad as telling Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh that Iran views the support of the Palestinian people as part of its religious and national duty and that Iran will stand behind the Palestinian nation "until the big victory feast which is the collapse of the Zionist regime."

www.haaretz.com...
On general note - I think that Iranian leadership wants Israeli strike. They have their plans for it. And i do not doubt for a second that Israeli strike would cause a regional war involving a lot of countries , Iranians clearly think the same. This is too interesting times for my taste. The best possible outcome would be change in Iranian leadership, all other options - Iran with nukes or all-out war in Middle East are very scary. So i hope that economical pressure would work. If not - .................. ?

Originally posted by mattpryor
reply to post by Sharrow

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What are they lying about exactly

What about they're lying? Usually about everything. Make some background research and you'll learn it too.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge

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I'm sure someone will tell you that quote is a mistranslation

Poor misunderstood Ahmadinejad...

reply to post by Wachstum

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really you feel sorry for me? 25 years old, got a solid stable job, own my own house, have two dogs, accomplished collegiate athlete, traveled numerous places around the world, purple belt in brazilian jiujitsu, trained muay thai in thailand, studied world history, war history enthusiast, have tons of good loving friends and family, can travel to my home state hawaii whenever i want to, go to vegas whenever i want to, go skiing in colorado whenever i want to....and YOU FEEL SOORY FOR ME????

Im able to do all these things because I live in the United States, the greatest country in the modern world.

Im proud and wouldn't want to live ANYWHERE ELSE in the world.

just saying......

reply to post by mattpryor

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Could be. But i have prepared second line of defense. I would keep strategic layout of my new fortifications a secret, all that i can say for now is that search function on PressTV site is pretty lame but google rocks.

Originally posted by Sharrow

Originally posted by mattpryor
reply to post by Sharrow

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What are they lying about exactly

What about they're lying? Usually about everything. Make some background research and you'll learn it too.

So your answer is to tell us to do research on what you are accusing Isreal of?

Simple question to answer since you are so sure they are lying about something, everything according to you so it should be easy to cite a couple of examples. P.S, secretly we know they have nukes.

reply to post by mattpryor

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Oh wait a minute where have I heard all this b/s before, letme think oh yes, the run up to the invasion of Iraq!

Deejavu anyone!

reply to post by disfugured

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Iran needs to realize that the powerful nations on this earth have said, "NO". They are not listening. They are defiant. Nothing changes who is powerful on this planet today. Iran must listen or they will get slapped around.

Neither the US or Israel has had their testicles removed. They have big kahunas and will bark and growl and if you don't heed those warnings then you will be bitten.

Iran is making things worse instead of better. Why doesn't Iran just say OK? After they get chomped half to death they will say OK like a little wimp. Iran is on the wrong track and now seem to be ripping off their shirt and holding up their fists like dummies.

My money is on Iran losing by knockout in the first round.

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