Originally posted by johnny2127
Originally posted by jimmyx
ok, here goes...he has paid up the on the US obligations to the UN, signed onto and promised by the US. this money is used for poverty and disaster
relief, as well as europe, china, russia, iran to get the IAEE into iran for inspections of their nuclear plants with sanctions if needed, and these
sanctions are supported by russia and china. he has increased budgets for the FDA on food inspections that had been drastically cut in the last
adminstration, he has begun talks with cuba for better relations. he is concentrating more of the military on al-qeuada in eastern afghanistan, rather
than putting more troops into iraq... he is being a calming influence around the world, rather than a threatening one.
the problem is perspective...people and governments in other countries see us as a country that bombs and attacks other countries...which we have
done, not as a world power that helps people. obama is attempting to change that...which is why he won the nobel prize.
and all the americans that bash obama don't see that perspective that is clear to outsiders eyes.
on the FDA part...people in other countries think it is a good thing when you try and help the majority of your own people
See there ya go. I can understand if someone supports his award based on those things. Personally some of those things you listed I don't see the
same way, but thats a matter of opinion.
And has anyone ever ATTEMPTED to approach Russia and say: lets stop the arms race? Both the US and Russia have over 10k nukes. So I would gather that
it was the opposite. You made more nukes, so will we.
Just to take a difference stance for a change and say lets cut this out, takes a lot of courage.
Regarding Iraq and Afghanistan, he DID put more troops into both Iraq and Afghanistan. Both wars have been escalated....
All this talk about iraq and Afghanistan just shows that people have no idea who these things work, our responsibilities, and are trying to take some
of the hate mongering off Bush and put it on Obama.
Troops are being reduced in Iraq. They are being moved into Afghan. obama put into plan to have troops out by 2011. That is ending the war. The troops
that are in Iraq, as we speak, are trainign the Iraqi army and police and government to be self sufficient. By the time we leave, it will be a self
sufficient country. And you can't do that in 6 months.
To think that we can drop and run is highly immature, and would leave the middle east in a whirlwind of chaos.
Afghanistan is an even bigger nightmare. And unlike Bush, obama is approaching it very cautiously and gathering info. He hasn't even actually
approved a troop surge yet. he is still gathering information. This was a war that was embraced, not prepared for, that has disrupted a country to the
very core, and let powers in that should of never been there. You have to approach that cautiously. It is in unprecendented situation.
Again, to think we should just pack up and leave and let the nightmare grow legs and run is childish, immature, and shouldn't even be participating
in a political discussion.
I am not sure about the calming influence claim you made. Things certainly aren't calm in the US, UK, Israel, Iran, Eastern Europe, etc...
So where has he calmed things? The only thing I can think of to support this is some leaders who feel more comfortable with Obama.
Thanks for the reply Jimmy. I appreciate it.
What you think he should go around and touch people's chakras and make them feel better?
There is always going to be strife and war. Even JC couldn't take care of that.
But to actually get Russia to rethink about policies is incredible, considering all this history.
He recently actually got Iran to get nuclear talks again.
As soon as Obama got into office, he signed the Navajo their water rights. October 1, 2009, the construction was authorized to begin the large
pipeline to bring the 80,000 navajo their water. That they have been denied for decades.
As for Guantanamo, the orders Obama signed is that it had to be closed in a year.
there is still time. Stop acting like members of the microwave society.
Especially when there is rampant nimby and they are having a hard time placing the detainees,which is just plain silly.
But there have been no new detainees brought to Guantanamo.
Obama has actually gotten Palestine and Israel leaders to sit and talk about negotiations.
If he actually brings peace to Palestine and Israel, that would be worthy of ten noble prizes.