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Topic started on 9-10-2009 @ 01:01 AM by letspreadtruth
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I am convinced that the powers that be hold other ideas for this world then of what most people know of. I need to know what I can do, what part can I
play to stand up for what I truly believe in and thats FREEDOM. Protests ?? Getting the word out ?? How ?? What specifically can I do ?? I need
answers.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 01:31 AM by Demandred
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let me ask you a question what rights DO you have left?
the bush administration eroded most of them already in the name of the war on terrorism, the war on drugs, the war on iraq, the war on afganistan, the
war on the people of the USA, oops!!! they wernt supposed to let that one slip were they
dont take it to heart things arnt much better here in Australia, you cant even pee in a public toilet without 3 cops jumping out trying to sample it
for bomb making material or drugs or something its getting ridiculous
the difference is we dont have a bill or rights or a constitution to get in the way when where being railroaded by politicians and police
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 01:53 AM by letspreadtruth
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So were supposed to sit around and let whatever plan they have for us take shape ?? NO ! We need to do something.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 01:59 AM by Demandred
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passive resistance - your an agitator
aggressive resistance - your a terrorist
petition the government - your a nut job
fight those trying to oppress you - your a criminal
raise community awareness - your a political opportunist nut job trying to agitate the population into criminal acts
join a political party to enact change - you become what you hate
the only thing that will change how things are is the fall of this world wide empire that has been created all empires fall its one of the lessons
history teaches us
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 03:17 AM by XXXN3O
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I do not mean to be the bearer of bad news on this but the only way you can stop the government from interfering or taking away your rights is to give
them away.
After all it was the people who created the government that gave the rights and the power to the governments in the first place.
Unless the governments give them all back, I doubt anything will change right now.
In the future things will get better after we all go through a heck of a lot more suffering but in my opinion both are deception.
People might disagree but right now the governments want you to get angry, it serves their interests. How else will they introduce the severe
changes??
Its a hook line and sinker case, when everyone is fighting, starving, desperate, along comes the changes that will fix it.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 03:53 AM by Stillalive
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everything you do is helping,couse only talking wont change anything
spread the word,thats the least you can do,let many people know off all this.
and you can start sabotaging,blackmailing and doing "freedom acts" but believe me blowing up a mall isnt very "freedom acty".its terrorism,theres
no need for innocent people to die.
look what the anarchysts do,blow the car of some corrupten politicians ,shoot and brake his houses windows. that kinda thing (;
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 03:54 AM by Stillalive
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i was always say that we SHOULD DO something about it,but no one listens
well i for one am making a site,in which i will write all about this,and i will try to make as many people as i can see the truths.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 02:42 PM by letspreadtruth
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Good idea on the website ! If I can help you out in any way please let me know.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 02:46 PM by Stormdancer777
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Originally posted by letspreadtruth
I am convinced that the powers that be hold other ideas for this world then of what most people know of. I need to know what I can do, what part can I
play to stand up for what I truly believe in and thats FREEDOM. Protests ?? Getting the word out ?? How ?? What specifically can I do ?? I need
answers.
Nothing.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 02:51 PM by letspreadtruth
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Originally posted by Demandred
passive resistance - your an agitator
aggressive resistance - your a terrorist
petition the government - your a nut job
fight those trying to oppress you - your a criminal
raise community awareness - your a political opportunist nut job trying to agitate the population into criminal acts
join a political party to enact change - you become what you hate
the only thing that will change how things are is the fall of this world wide empire that has been created all empires fall its one of the lessons
history teaches us
So your telling me that you rather have NO freedom, you rather lie down and accept the world the way its going to be for yourself, your children, your
grandchildren etc rather than being labeled.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 02:52 PM by letspreadtruth
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 02:55 PM by letspreadtruth
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I have to respectfully disagree, If you dont like something thats going on in the world and it effects you in a negative way CHANGE it and if you fail
atleast you will have the peace of mind knowing youve done something to change your world for the better.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 10:01 PM by Demandred
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nothing can be done until the majority wake up and realize this, i have little enough freedom as it is, ill have even less in jail and all for
what?
trying to improve the lives of the brain dead masses who think that just because they can go down the street and buy an ice cream full of industrial
poison then they must already be free... screw that ... screw that in a big way
those whom you try to save will be the first to point their fingers and condemn you. let them eat their cake and let them choke on it too
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 10:55 PM by letspreadtruth
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Then how about trying your best effort to "wake" the masses up, spread the word. A lot of people are willing to listen they just believe what there
told because thats the only thing their being told.
Most people atleast here in the U.S are too busy working a lousy 9-5 which they do just to survive, then come home and take care of their children and
do it all over again just to live paycheck to paycheck. They dont have the time or the energy to seek the truth even if they wanted to.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 11:38 PM by emosun16
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One word -rebel- If everyone stood together and forced the goverment to give in to the public, then we'd have our rights back, either that or suffer
through all the torture and wait for a new president.
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reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 12:31 AM by letspreadtruth
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One word -rebel- If everyone stood together and forced the goverment to give in to the public, then we'd have our rights back.
Sounds good, how do we start ??
As for waiting for a new president 4-8 more years, it wont make a difference another puppet will be elected. Ive heard the last real president was
Kennedy and look what happened to him : /
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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 08:37 PM by Demandred
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ive thought about this many times the problem is that from a young age we goto school and there we are taught that all we have to look forward to in
life is to get a job, buy a home and raise a family this kind of idea is indoctrinated into us from a young age.
to achieve this you need to do what your told, toe the line and not make waves, once you goto buy a home thats when they have you, you are now what i
call an economic slave as you now no longer have any choices in life, as you now need to spend the next 10-20 years paying off your house.
to do this you need to work, to work in a job for that long you have to do what your told else your fired if your fired you cant pay your mortgage if
you cant pay your mortgage your stamped as persona non Grata and the banks do all they can to make your life a living hell.
so basically people don't want to wake up they don't want to acknowledge that their lives are meaningless as they fill those empty existences with
flashy lights and bells and whistles which are supposed to sooth the collective conscience of the masses until such time as they reach old age look
back and only then realize they have been duped.
i guess its a form of government control. what you need to realize is its not obama thats the problem or bush and they arnt the government they are
symbols created to trick the masses into thinking that they are living in a democracy and they have control. The real government are the faceless
bureaucrats who stand behing the symbols who maintain their power and push their own interests no matter who is president / prime minister.
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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 09:22 AM by The Parallelogram
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Originally posted by emosun16
One word -rebel- If everyone stood together and forced the goverment to give in to the public, then we'd have our rights back, either that or suffer
through all the torture and wait for a new president.
what torture?
did a representative of the Obama administration torture you?
or are you exaggerating shamelessly?
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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 09:26 AM by andy1033
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You cannot do anything. Even if you live across the world americans think they have a right to kill and torture you for no reason, other than they
american agencies think they have a right to kill people.
If you have gone to school with horrendous people and you are quiet my advice is to move away as they may be taking away your rights and freedoms, as
they may get jobs that give them the power to destroy lifes. People have an obsession with vendettas, and especially want to kill innocent people they
went to school with for no reason.
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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 09:51 AM by Genus
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The only reason our freedoms get taken away is because we let them. Why do you think all the FEMA camps and coffins showed up? TPTB know the public is
finally getting fed up and is about to revolt, so they are preparing.
Civil Disobedience will work, but only if enough people are willing to understand that yes it will make them declare martial law, yes it will mean the
death of some of us, but it may well be the only way we'll ever have a chance to be truely free ever again.
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