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Topic started on 8-10-2009 @ 10:31 PM by Where2Hide2006
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The bombing of the moon is a weapons system test.
Have you ever heard of "Rods from God" well its a bomb without being a bomb that packs the same punch as a nuke, without the radioactive fallout.
Basically its a large metallic rod that falls to earth (or the moon in this case) from space and using kinetic energy becomes almost like a "smart"
asteroid that could wipe out an entire city. Think about it... they expect this 2 ton metal hunk to cause a 5 mile wide crater on the moon, and the
moon has only a fraction of the gravitational pull of the earth.
This weapons test could not be conducted on earth without raising red flags... so under the guise of NASA they concocted this story of trying to find
water on the moon, despite the fact that India has already done so without needing to blow it up.
With this weapon the USA can destroy any city on earth without leaving any traces of evidence of who is responsible for the attack and without causing
nuclear fallout to affect the surrounding area/nations.
Heres a link about the "rods from god" weapons system project.
The New York Times...
www.nytimes.com...
The Weekly Standard...
www.weeklystandard.com...
A picture of the weapon...
1.bp.blogspot.com...
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 10:35 PM by chrisd250
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intersting theory....that would make more sense so that at least the area bombed can be occupied afterwards...
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 10:43 PM by Where2Hide2006
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Originally posted by chrisd250
intersting theory....that would make more sense so that at least the area bombed can be occupied afterwards...
Exactly! Say for example if the USA wanted to bomb Iran...but didnt want to risk that radiation would kill its troops in Iraq. What do they do? Now
they have the weapon to do it.
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 10:54 PM by debunky
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And the problem with that idea is that the physics of dropping stuff on people to kill them are very, very, very well understood.
We even managed to drop stuff on people horizontal (We call that bullet or arrow) to kill them.
The math:
F=m*a
E=m*v
It's highschool level physics. Everybody knows about them. There is nothing to test.
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:05 PM by StinkyFeet
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Wow that would be an awesome weapon to add to our arsenal. Nobody could flip out because we were using nukes, but we still get the same results.
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:07 PM by StinkyFeet
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On second thought, maybe they know we are going broke and so they are testing it so we can commit national suicide when the bill collectors come for a
hunk of our behinds.
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:17 PM by impaired
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You know, I gotta say: That IS an interesting theory. NASA themselves already made the press conference saying that they found the water. Obviously
the pretense on this one is that they want to analyze...
Regardless, this could very well be a whitewash. Who knows...
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:21 PM by Where2Hide2006
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Originally posted by debunky
It's highschool level physics. Everybody knows about them. There is nothing to test.
You are right. We should just add this weapon to our war machine and spend the billions of dollars in developing it ... without ever testing it
out.
That makes much more sense than doing a test run on the moon.
Are you serious?
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:24 PM by FredMcWoozy
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What a good day to join. I think you are spot on. i have heard of these rod weapons before and anything can do serious damage aslong as their is
enough kinetic energy.
The question is, what type of trace is left behind?
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:25 PM by Phage
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The claims of 5 mile crater are absurd.
They expect a crater 20 meters in diameter and a few meters deep.
The Centaur's collision is expected to create a crater roughly 60 or 70 feet wide (20 meters wide) and perhaps as much as 16 feet (5 meters)
deep, ejecting approximately 385 tons of lunar dust and soil — and hopefully some ice.
www.universetoday.com...
This crater is about 1/2 mile in diameter.
It was created by an object which weighed 300,000 tons and was moving at 28,000 miles per hour. The LCROSS impactor weighs 2 tons and will be moving
at 5,600 miles per hour. "Rods from God" would be about twenty feet long and a foot in diameter.. See the difference?
There is no point in "testing" the concept where there is no atmosphere. The effects of the atmosphere are one of the biggest problems facing it.
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:27 PM by fixer1967
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I was thinking that it would be very funny if there was a big explosion like say 100 megaton or more. A blast that took out a good chunk of the moon.
I can just see it now. Every one at NASA looking at each other asking the same question. "WHAT DID WE HIT!!!!". People keep saying there are alien
bases on the moon. What if they hit an alien anti-matter reactor. Now that would be a blast.
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:45 PM by Myollinir
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im so excitedddddddddddddddddddddd
i personally like this theory of the rod from god (typically what i tell the girls in the bedroom :lol  . something like that would be an incredible
instrument and a huge advancement in weaponry, granted i know its already in the wrong hands... i just like to see new things
but, to break it down, 400 tons of material blown into space? i'm going to be watching.
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:45 PM by Where2Hide2006
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Originally posted by Phage
It was created by an object which weighed 300,000 tons and was moving at 28,000 miles per hour. The LCROSS impactor weighs 2 tons and will be moving
at 5,600 miles per hour. "Rods from God" would be about twenty feet long and a foot in diameter.. See the difference?
No. I believe I am familiar with the crater you are using as an example and to the best of my knowledge it is still unknown if the crater was the
result of an impact or a near earth explosion of a meteor that broke up in the atmosphere because the mining company that purchased the rights to mine
there never found the iron they were expecting.
On the point of the size of the Tungsten rods, yes they are 20 x 1 but that doesnt tell the whole story as Tungsten has a much higher density than you
might think.
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:55 PM by slipknotrules2009
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I think your on to something thier and thiers a plan to attack Iran on Halloween. thats only a few weeks away they need thier test to make sure it
works before they attack Iran, that Rod of God sounds pretty cool at least won't leave radiation.
Now that they have this can we get rid of all of the nukes now before one of these morons use one.
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:57 PM by gerg357
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If this is the case then i worry about this. The way we do it now with bombs is something but imagine if ya shoot em from space and you can target
with it. Now imagine every country with thier own base to shoot from. Thats going to be bad. Now imagine all that force of bombs slamming the earth
if it went off how its going to effect the earth. I feel that bombs and stuff like that mess with the earths orbit. I feel that objects slamming the
moon affects its pull on the earth. Not by a great bit but maybe a smudge. Those smudges could add up assuming my theory is right.
This thing with the moon impact aint really to discover water. They already know thiers ice or water on the moon. They want to see if its enough ice
and water to put a station on the moon. If they could use the water from the moon. So they are going to see if its worth fooling with. How much water
is there and can it be harvested. Could you imagine if they did find enough water? They will probably build stations and if they do. What are they
going to do about the objects that slam the moon like meteors or space debris?
As far as the reason being to test a weapon. Yes i could agree with this since its not a bomb but will produce alot of kinetic energy plus supposidly
its going to be traveling twice the speed of a bullet. Thats ALOT of force.
So maybe they are killing two birds with one stone? Doing the real mission and testing a weapon at the same time. They did call it a weapon i think on
the msn site so.. hmmmmm
Anyways i hope when i wake up in the morning i aint awoken to the sound of moon rocks slamming my tin roof. lol Moon water anyone? lol
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 12:15 AM by Phage
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You're right about the density of tungsten each rod would mass substantially more than the Centaur and would be going a lot faster. But you are
wrong about Barringer Crater, it's accepted as a meteor impact crater. Barringer, the would be iron magnate, didn't have a full understanding of the
physics involved.
Barringer's arguments were met with skepticism, as there was a reluctance at the time to consider the role of meteorites in terrestrial geology.
He persisted and sought to bolster his theory by locating the remains of the meteorite. At the time of first discovery by Europeans, the surrounding
plains were covered with about 30 tons of large oxidized iron meteorite fragments. This led Barringer to believe that the bulk of the impactor could
still be found under the crater floor. Impact physics was poorly understood at the time and Barringer was unaware that most of the meteorite vaporized
on impact. He spent 27 years trying to locate a large deposit of meteoric iron, and drilled to a depth of 419 m (1,376 ft), but no significant deposit
was ever found.
Barringer, who in 1894 was one of the investors who made $15 million in the Commonwealth silver mine in Pearce, Arizona in Cochise County, Arizona,
had ambitious plans for the iron ore.[11] He estimated from the size of the crater that the meteorite had a mass of 100 million tons.[9] The current
estimate of 300,000 tons for the impactor is only three-tenths of one percent of Barringer's estimate. Iron ore of the type found at the crater was
valued at the time at $125/ton so Barringer believed he was searching for lode worth more than a billion 1903 dollars.[12]
en.wikipedia.org...
A rod would be going about the same speed as the meteor which made the crater but it would only have a mass of about .01% of it. Nowhere near enough
to make a 5 mile crater much less a 1/2 mile crater. But it would release a hell of a lot of heat. The Centaur isn't even close to that.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 12:26 AM by nikiano
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Originally posted by Where2Hide2006
Think about it... they expect this 2 ton metal hunk to cause a 5 mile wide crater on the moon, and the moon has only a fraction of the gravitational
pull of the earth.
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Wow. I never thought about that. Excellent point. Excellent post.
I have been saying for months that it makes no sense that we would "bomb" the moon to find out if there is water on the moon, when we somehow know
the exact chemical makeup of all the other planets around us.
I mean, think about it....we know the atmosphere of Venus, Jupiter, and Mars from satellites. We know the chemical makeup of many of the stars around
us. But we can't find out if there is water on the moon without bombing it? Nope....don't buy it.
Why not send a rover to the moon like the type we sent to Mars? It would have been a heck of a lot cheaper than sending one to Mars.
I think we could have easily found out if the moon had water on the poles wtihout bombing it.
I think your theory is the most plausible one I've heard so far. I will definitely read the links!!
Thanks.
Edit to add:
After reading those 3 links, I thought of something: Anybody ever see that video taken from the space shuttle, of what happened when that huge long
tether broke free (during an experiement), and then all those glowing balls started gather around it, like they were checking it out?
What if the glowing balls were UFO's (they looked like they were under intelligent control of some kind), and they thought that the tether was one of
those rods. I'm sure that they are keeping up with our weapons projects. Or....what if it was not a simple tether.....but a rod-like weapon that they
were trying to test out, and then....
Well, anyway....those articles made me think of that NASA video.
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 12:29 AM by pluckynoonez
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 12:35 AM by pluckynoonez
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double-post, my bad
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reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 12:38 AM by Where2Hide2006
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Watch the moon impact LIVE!
Live coverage starts at 6:15 am EST
Impact due at 1131 UTC (or Zulu), 7:31 AM EDT, 6:31 Central.
www.ufo-blogger.com...
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