The Real Reason USA is bombing the Moon ~ A NEW Weapon!, page 1
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:05 PM by StinkyFeet
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Wow that would be an awesome weapon to add to our arsenal. Nobody could flip out because we were using nukes, but we still get the same results.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:07 PM by StinkyFeet
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On second thought, maybe they know we are going broke and so they are testing it so we can commit national suicide when the bill collectors come for a hunk of our behinds.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:25 PM by Phage
The claims of 5 mile crater are absurd.

They expect a crater 20 meters in diameter and a few meters deep.
The Centaur's collision is expected to create a crater roughly 60 or 70 feet wide (20 meters wide) and perhaps as much as 16 feet (5 meters) deep, ejecting approximately 385 tons of lunar dust and soil — and hopefully some ice.

www.universetoday.com...

This crater is about 1/2 mile in diameter.

It was created by an object which weighed 300,000 tons and was moving at 28,000 miles per hour. The LCROSS impactor weighs 2 tons and will be moving at 5,600 miles per hour. "Rods from God" would be about twenty feet long and a foot in diameter.. See the difference?

There is no point in "testing" the concept where there is no atmosphere. The effects of the atmosphere are one of the biggest problems facing it.

[edit on 10/8/2009 by Phage]


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:57 PM by gerg357
If this is the case then i worry about this. The way we do it now with bombs is something but imagine if ya shoot em from space and you can target with it. Now imagine every country with thier own base to shoot from. Thats going to be bad. Now imagine all that force of bombs slamming the earth if it went off how its going to effect the earth. I feel that bombs and stuff like that mess with the earths orbit. I feel that objects slamming the moon affects its pull on the earth. Not by a great bit but maybe a smudge. Those smudges could add up assuming my theory is right.


This thing with the moon impact aint really to discover water. They already know thiers ice or water on the moon. They want to see if its enough ice and water to put a station on the moon. If they could use the water from the moon. So they are going to see if its worth fooling with. How much water is there and can it be harvested. Could you imagine if they did find enough water? They will probably build stations and if they do. What are they going to do about the objects that slam the moon like meteors or space debris?


As far as the reason being to test a weapon. Yes i could agree with this since its not a bomb but will produce alot of kinetic energy plus supposidly its going to be traveling twice the speed of a bullet. Thats ALOT of force.

So maybe they are killing two birds with one stone? Doing the real mission and testing a weapon at the same time. They did call it a weapon i think on the msn site so.. hmmmmm

Anyways i hope when i wake up in the morning i aint awoken to the sound of moon rocks slamming my tin roof. lol Moon water anyone? lol

[edit on 9-10-2009 by gerg357]



reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 12:15 AM by Phage
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You're right about the density of tungsten each rod would mass substantially more than the Centaur and would be going a lot faster. But you are wrong about Barringer Crater, it's accepted as a meteor impact crater. Barringer, the would be iron magnate, didn't have a full understanding of the physics involved.
Barringer's arguments were met with skepticism, as there was a reluctance at the time to consider the role of meteorites in terrestrial geology. He persisted and sought to bolster his theory by locating the remains of the meteorite. At the time of first discovery by Europeans, the surrounding plains were covered with about 30 tons of large oxidized iron meteorite fragments. This led Barringer to believe that the bulk of the impactor could still be found under the crater floor. Impact physics was poorly understood at the time and Barringer was unaware that most of the meteorite vaporized on impact. He spent 27 years trying to locate a large deposit of meteoric iron, and drilled to a depth of 419 m (1,376 ft), but no significant deposit was ever found.

Barringer, who in 1894 was one of the investors who made $15 million in the Commonwealth silver mine in Pearce, Arizona in Cochise County, Arizona, had ambitious plans for the iron ore.[11] He estimated from the size of the crater that the meteorite had a mass of 100 million tons.[9] The current estimate of 300,000 tons for the impactor is only three-tenths of one percent of Barringer's estimate. Iron ore of the type found at the crater was valued at the time at $125/ton so Barringer believed he was searching for lode worth more than a billion 1903 dollars.[12]

en.wikipedia.org...

A rod would be going about the same speed as the meteor which made the crater but it would only have a mass of about .01% of it. Nowhere near enough to make a 5 mile crater much less a 1/2 mile crater. But it would release a hell of a lot of heat. The Centaur isn't even close to that.

[edit on 10/9/2009 by Phage]


reply posted on 9-10-2009 @ 12:26 AM by nikiano
Originally posted by Where2Hide2006
Think about it... they expect this 2 ton metal hunk to cause a 5 mile wide crater on the moon, and the moon has only a fraction of the gravitational pull of the earth.


[edit on 8-10-2009 by Where2Hide2006]


Wow. I never thought about that. Excellent point. Excellent post.

I have been saying for months that it makes no sense that we would "bomb" the moon to find out if there is water on the moon, when we somehow know the exact chemical makeup of all the other planets around us.

I mean, think about it....we know the atmosphere of Venus, Jupiter, and Mars from satellites. We know the chemical makeup of many of the stars around us. But we can't find out if there is water on the moon without bombing it? Nope....don't buy it.

Why not send a rover to the moon like the type we sent to Mars? It would have been a heck of a lot cheaper than sending one to Mars.

I think we could have easily found out if the moon had water on the poles wtihout bombing it.

I think your theory is the most plausible one I've heard so far. I will definitely read the links!!

Thanks.

Edit to add:

After reading those 3 links, I thought of something: Anybody ever see that video taken from the space shuttle, of what happened when that huge long tether broke free (during an experiement), and then all those glowing balls started gather around it, like they were checking it out?

What if the glowing balls were UFO's (they looked like they were under intelligent control of some kind), and they thought that the tether was one of those rods. I'm sure that they are keeping up with our weapons projects. Or....what if it was not a simple tether.....but a rod-like weapon that they were trying to test out, and then....

Well, anyway....those articles made me think of that NASA video.




[edit on 9-10-2009 by nikiano]
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