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I didn't say it was, I quoted the individual who said it was a ridiculous claim. Secondly, an 'opinion poll' is just that, people's opinion, it doesn't make anything true or false. It's an argument from popularity.
Originally posted by mattpryor
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I'd like to see an opinion poll which backs up your claim that it is ridiculous.
Originally posted by Selahobed
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Cartoons aside, when was the last time you was in the west bank chilling with the homies there?
As for the kidnappings, go to gaza and see what happens. Doesnt get reported, but google it lol. (ive been there)
The Mishneh Torah (an authoritative work of Jewish law) states in Hilkhot Melakhim 11:10–12 that Jesus is a "stumbling block" who makes "the majority of the world err to serve a divinity besides God"
Roughly 1,500 Israelis attended a pro-settler, anti-Obama in front of the home of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem today, at which rabbis condemned President Obama as a “racist” and predicted that his demands that Israel halt its settlement growth would lead to the disintegration of the United States.
Israel wants its American ally to instill regime changes in the Middle East, especially in countries which are hostile toward it. Only after the Iraq invasion, did Americans perhaps realize that the cost in American lives had been too dear. (let alone that we left the country in shambles). It is working in concert with neocon have-beens to weaken Obama in any way they can, be it the 'birthers' movement, health care, the economic crisis, the wars, anything at all.
The thinking goes that a weakened Obama will have to relent and give in to Israel's demands. And Israel knows exactly how to stall long enough until a friendlier U.S. administration comes into the White House.
Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by mattpryor
There is a difference, there is those in Israel who wants this to stop, and there is those in israel who are hell bent of removing palestine once and for all out off thier so called land. Also there are those in israel who do not want Jerlusalem split up. Those are the ones whom are the Zionists.
Call my views extreme all you want. Normally I would stay/sit on the fence, not anymore, it is plain to se there are those in Israel who will do anything even assasinate someone to get thier own way.
Originally posted by Harlequin
laurauk - mattpryor doesn`t seem to distinguish between those israelis who are honest , hard working and faithful followers of judaism , and the zionist nut jobs who are driving there country into destruction - the zealots who run israel are using judaism as a tool , there has been holocausts before and since then - yet we are reminded of the suffering of the jews (yet not any of the other 10 million who also died at the hands of the nazi`s) were is the reminder of the slaughter in the days of stalin? or the genocides in africa?
my heart goes out to those innocents in israel who will end up suffering because of this
Originally posted by chiron613
Some of you seem to think that the US supports Israel out of some sort of (misguided) altruism. This isn't the case. The US supports Israel for the benefit of the US, not for the benefit of Israel.
This is true about all our foreign aid and humanitarian efforts. While it might help people, we're doing it because it helps us (or, we think it will help us). If it ever turned out that it would be better to bomb those same people, we'd do it in a heartbeat. If you don't believe me, look at Iraq.
You need to distinguish between the reasons for an act, and the *explanation* for that act. The reasons for protecting Israel range from the Religious Right wanting to foster their biblical prophecies, to our military wanting to have a presence in the predominately hostile Middle East. These are the reasons for protecting Israel.
The *explanations* are much nobler-sounding. Defending the underdog against overwhelming odds. Preventing another Holocaust. Supporting a democratic country in a region riddled with dictatorships and theocracies. How noble of us, right? That's why politicians say these things. They want the support of the American people. But it's a crock.
If it ever turns out that the US decides its interests would be better served by bombing Israel out of existence, you can bet that suddenly Israel will disappear. The US is looking out for its own interests. Never let anyone tell you otherwise.