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posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 02:06 PM
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MODS: Please remove this post, as it was accidnetalyy posted in the wrong area. Thanks

Militia:
What does the term “Militia” actually represent to the individual?
In essence, it represents a group of people that train, equip, and prepared themselves for protective purposes, against whatever they perceive as being a threat to their way of life…

There used to be militia chapters in nearly every state, and I’m guess that they still exists, but choose to remain out of public eye, and government scrutiny. That is the nature of the beast, aptly so…

Since the media and government have labeled the militias as a domestic terrorist group, many quickly and quietly disappeared from site. That isn’t to say that they just packed up, and went home; instead they operate without attracting any attention, and strive to remain under the radar. But they do, still exists out there.

I am 100% for having a militia. I mean 100%, period. It’s something that I believe at the very core of my own belief system. Does that make me traitorous, or a rebel, or the type of guy bent on overthrowing or forcing capitulation of our form of government. Hell No! On the contrary, my type of militia is vastly different from what the media claims it is. It is a militia (so far, comprised of just me) that stand side by side, and willingly will take point, with the forces that protect and serve this country. (period-emphasis added!)

What it does not represent to me, is massing together in order to formulate programs and schemes to wage war against America, and what I perceive to be wrong with it.

It doesn’t dictate that I blindly follow some beat-up worn –out old warrior with self-illusions of grandeur, leading some angry army/mob against HIS perceived injustices, against a form of government that the rest of society lives under.

It also doesn’t represent a gathering of people, armed to the teeth, and ready to start ambushing federal convoys, steal automatic weapons, and explosives, so that I can wage a guerilla action against elected leaders and government officials. That would put me in the same class as those whackos beheading each other in Afghanistan and Iraq.

So, (in case you ask) what does a Militia actually mean to me:
It means that I am fully prepared to come to the aid of my neighbors, my community, and the people that need my help, assistance, or protection, during events that may, or may not unfold in my lifetime.

It means that I will resists, with everything I have inside of me, the establishment of silly laws, brought about by petty self-serving politicians, that become aroused and horny at the first sign of power; seeking to increase their power base, and self-serving apparatus through petty regulations, policies, and insane covenants imposed on me, my neighbors, and my community.

How will I accomplish this, to any means?
By stepping up to the plate and allowing my voice to be heard across the chamber.
By Not being silent when such policies are force fed to me.
By sending a clear message through whatever media and outlets are available to me, of these perceived injustices.
By preparing my family, my friends, and those that would listen, to what I “personally’ feel are threatening to myself, my family, my neighbors, and my community.



Preparations being defined as:
Situational Awareness at first, at the Local level, secondly the Nation level, and finally, The Global Level. This is how my world works. Always has, always will.

It means that I vote.
It means that I get active in my community.
It means that I stand center stage and voice my opinions to those that their own twisted sense of greed and quest for po

[edit on 8-10-2009 by AlaskaFranke]




posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 02:34 PM
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Yeah, you pretty much sum up how I feel.

I don't own a gun because I want to use it (well to shoot someone else
The people made of paper beware), but because I might need to use it.

Violence is a last resort, if you're using it as a means to fix the govt. then the people have royally failed in their duties as a free people.

I hate to say it.. But maybe we need a tyrannical govt. to remind the people of this fact.

But I want to help people, that's why I'm going into the Emergency Medical Services program.

The militia here in my state has stated that their goal is to help their neighbors when they really need it. I've considered joining such a group, but I haven't. I don't want to be put a terror watch list.

But the media will always go to the fringe groups of the guys training to clear houses, and talking to the camera in a ski mask with a masked voice saying "TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA"

When most of the militia groups I have seen are community aid based groups that simply do not trust the govt. to be there when they need them.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 06:21 PM
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The militia is constitutionally mandated by the 2nd amendment. Many people think it only confers the right of gun ownership but it also implies that the militia be armed. The militia is the duty of every able-bodied man between the ages of 18 and 55 (not %100 positive on the second number) in each of the respective states. It was not laid out more explicitly since at the time of the writing the militia was an understood concept, that every capable man had a duty to defend their state. My feelings are the same as yours Franke, only I don't waste stamps anymore or bother to vote since it doesn't matter anymore. Democracy is as dead as the Republic in America. It's time we stopped kidding ourselves about it and take off the red, white and blue colored glasses.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 06:55 PM
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Okay AskThe Animal;
I’ll buy into some of what you said, simply because they reflect my own feelings.
However; I draw the line at removing the “red, white & blue” colored glasses. That is after all; the very fundamental original charter of the Colonial Militia itself, to stand guard, and be ready to hammer tyranny. Period. No other pretext exists beyond that simple truth.

The fact remains, that since you don’t vote, you have absolutely have no right to say anything then. You are, in fact, part of the problem itself. As are others that bemoan the failing Democracy, when they don’t vote, or participate in the resolution of the problems faced. In simplistic terms, the enemy wins by “default”. Kind of like not showing up in divorce court, the broad gets what she wants, and then some…

Yes-your vote counts. It’s starts at your LOCAL level. What kind of local ruling administrative environment you allow, sets the stage for the national level. They emulate each other, in almost every respect.

Perhaps, if your stamps, or at least emails still flowed across various respective desk, then your voice would be heard. Perhaps not, but nobody could then claim (like me) that you are part of the problem, not the solution. (BTW-having said that, doesn’t infer that you are weak, since I don’t really know what battles you’ve fought…you could have, in fact, fought the good fight for many years, and just got burnt out from it-allowing the younger crowd to take over Agreed?)

I spilled blood for this country as a young man. Relinquishing that would, to me, be a slap in my face. Giving up…out of the question….Absolutely out of the question.

Militias; a good idea that went south when the radical got inside.

Who are the radicals? The would-be-dictators wearing cammie uniforms that never get dirty, call themselves leaders, and provoke unrestricted war against the American Government, and people that disagree with their basic concept of dictatorial leadership. (Sounds kinda’ familiar when you look at the National Socialist Movement aka Nazi party, doesn’t it….)

Thanks for the reply bud.
Stand Tall---



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 07:06 PM
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I agree with you. The constitutional not only allows you to be armed but requires you to be.

It's 18-40-45. I know it's not 55 though.

AlaskaFranke.. I think you're right, militia's are a great idea, but it has grown to be a right wing (and possibly left wing) radical side show.

A community based militia is a good thing, because the govt. has proven that ultimately they will not help you in the time frame that you need to be helped.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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I think the military as a whole should be comprised strictly of state militia. Since we are a union of 50 sovereign States, each should have its own, as initially intended.

The Federal Government would be responsible for financial appropriations of the defense budget as needed to ensure as a whole we have the resources to defend our nation. The only role for a national level of military would be to centralize and standardize training for the branches of military of all the states, as well as R&D. This would limit the power of the government over the people via military, and dramatically reduces the use of US forces overseas.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 08:30 PM
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So what you’re saying here, is that we shouldn't have federal troops. That each state should have their own army, and that Congress has to ask the various states, if they would like to participate in the defense of the country...?

Who would stand guard at the battlements then?

Who would send CIA and other intelligence agents into the field to identify potential threats, to not only the country as a whole, but the people in every state?

How would national health care, unemployment, workers compensation road repair, and every other federally funded program that we luxury in, be then funded?

How would federal aid be distributed among the people deserving it the most. We would allow some state governor, that can't balance a state budget, to assume responsibility for a monumental task such as this?

Who would the Unions cry "foul" to, when state's that decry unionization and cut them out of the loop, in order to further fill the states treasury?

How would 'we" address grievances, when State Police Forces, the military arm of the State Government itself, enacts unconstitutional laws, such a private ownership of firearms...Read Maryland, in fact~~

Newton Basic Law of Relativity: Action equals reaction. The very basic ‘cause & effect” principal applies here. People want thing for the Feds, yet their unwilling to return in kind.

People declare federal policies unconstitutional, yet allow local laws to be enacted, and never once rise to the occasion, or lift a finger to prevent it.

Listen..you can’t have your cake and eat it too….



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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So what you’re saying here, is that we shouldn't have federal troops. That each state should have their own army, and that Congress has to ask the various states, if they would like to participate in the defense of the country...?


No. In my vision, the federal military is a minimal force. I could see possibly one group of each force, i.e. one squadron of fighters, one of bombers, one Battalion of Infantry etc, to assist in situations that arise, but for all other foreign contingencies, the individual states would have to volunteer support. For territorial DEFENSE only, all states could be activated and coordinated from a central, federal command.


How would national health care, unemployment, workers compensation road repair, and every other federally funded program that we luxury in, be then funded?


What?


How would federal aid be distributed among the people deserving it the most. We would allow some state governor, that can't balance a state budget, to assume responsibility for a monumental task such as this?


Are you calling aid the defense budget? The money to support the collective Militia Force would have prescribed intent. It would not be, on whole, to be used at the discretion of the Governors.


How would 'we" address grievances, when State Police Forces, the military arm of the State Government itself, enacts unconstitutional laws, such a private ownership of firearms...Read Maryland, in fact~


Again, what? I'm not sure what your getting at here. The 'State Police Force' took over, and is making laws requiring private ownership of firearms? Maryland?



posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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I spent most of my adult years being politically active. I spent a great deal of my own time and money trying to work "within the system". I believe in Democratic principles. I should have said "I don't vote in Presidential elections". After the obvious vote stealing and manipulation of the 2000 Presidential election I gave up. I always voted Libertarian before then. I do still vote in local elections if I know a candidate that I can support but the major parties are screwed beyond fixing.
I did my time in the system and went to countless marches, protests (lost several teeth at one), petition signings; you name it - I;ve done it all. Wihtout major changes though we really don't have a real choice when it comes to national elections, just our choice in which flavor of sh*t we have to eat for the next 4 years. Long live the Republic.
More than anything we need to expose criminal electronic vote manipulation and return to traditional methods of vote counting that are verifyable.



posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 08:39 PM
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