What if the gods from the past returned today?, page 2
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 08:01 AM by masqua
Love this thread. It's such a great topic and at the heart of my interests in the Spiritual.

Karen Armstrong, in her book 'A History of God' writes:

"Men and women started to worship gods as soon as they became recognizably human; they created religions at the same time as they created works of art."


Sigmund Freud, whom I really don't like much, had this to say in his book 'Moses and Monotheism':

"Religious intolerance was inevitably born with the belief in one God".


Jonathan Kirsch, in his book 'God Against the Gods' wrote:

On September 11, 2001, we were reminded once again of the real meaning of the 3000-year-old conflict between monotheism and polytheism. The men who hijacked and crashed four civilian airliners were inspired to sacrifice their own lives, and to take the lives of several thousand "infidels" because they had embraced the simple but terrifying logic that lies at the heart of monotheism: if there is only one god, if there is only one right way to worship that god, then there is only one fitting punishment for failing to do so - death.


Personally, I believe in the Creator. If one needs to call the Creator a God, then that is fine with me and I won't argue, BUT, I feel it's a step towards 'humanizing' the Creator. When I think of the Creator, I have no idea what it is, whether man, woman, beast or even a corporeal entity. I simply don't know and prefer to leave it at that.

That the Creator also made Lesser Beings to help us in our daily lives on earth is also something that I believe in. It gives us 'contact' to the creator through personal Divine Entities. Nothing wrong with it and there are multitudes of them still active wthin the minds of humankind.

I even wrote a poem begging for their return to our consciousness:

-Justice-

Return to us from ancient time, oh
Son of Saturn;
Aritron the alchemist, who
squeezed coal into diamond eyes
to set into the grey sockets
of his stone children.

-Reward-

Regard our plight, oh
Son of Jupiter;
Bethor the medium, who
bartered among the spirits
to bestow longivity and power
to the worthy.

-Defence-

Strengthen our arms, oh
Son of Mars;
Phaleg the warrior, who
hardened the resolve of soldiers
through the battle madness
and on to honour.

-Trade-

Weigh down our treasury, oh
Solar Son;
Och the wise, who
brought gold to the world
establishing value in the scales
and to our eyes.

-Love-

Drop the veil so we may see, oh
Child of Beauty;
Hagith the lover, who
enchanted men and women
with spirit servants guiding
our fingers entwining.

-Knowledge-

Teach us so we may learn, oh
Son of Mercury;
Ophiel the messenger, who,
as holder of the philosophers stone,
created grand artistic wonders
through our crafty fingers.

-Peace-

Never leave us, oh
Son of Luna;
Phul the gatekeeper, who
whispers to the Goddesses.
Giver of silver and water spirits
to heal our aching minds.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



As to whether this thread belongs in a place other than the Crypto forum, I have this other poem of mine to offer:

With humble hobblings,
a congo line began
Ratcheting up to wild youthful circlings,
I am a bird of prey upon the world
descending in maturity to
a snake dance confined
within a 13 foot circle
upon cleansed ground
with wisdoms groaning load
plodding, plotting
to kill the Minotaur
and save the maiden
at the end of unravelled string.

www.abovetopsecret.com...






Edit to correct apostrophic calamaties

[edit on 30/10/09 by masqua]

[edit on 30/10/09 by masqua]


reply posted on 14-11-2009 @ 04:38 AM by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by Waiting_2_be_turned


I'm curious, would you consider Homer's Iliad and the subsequent discovery of Troy to be proof that Zeus is a real god?




reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 09:36 PM by OuttaHere
This was exactly the subject of a popular book called American Gods by Neil Gaiman. The old gods are weakened by loss of belief, and are reduced to the seamy underside of life. They emigrate to America hoping to revive their former glory, and in doing so they encounter some new gods as well.

I personally didn't like the book (a bit too raunchy for my taste) but if you like raunchy horror novels, this one may be for you!

... a scary, strange, and hallucinogenic road-trip story wrapped around a deep examination of the American spirit. Gaiman tackles everything from the onslaught of the information age to the meaning of death, but he doesn't sacrifice the razor-sharp plotting and narrative style he's been delivering since his Sandman days.

... Armed only with some coin tricks and a sense of purpose, (main character) Shadow travels through, around, and underneath the visible surface of things, digging up all the powerful myths Americans brought with them in their journeys to this land as well as the ones that were already here. Shadow's road story is the heart of the novel, and it's here that Gaiman offers up the details that make this such a cinematic book--the distinctly American foods and diversions, the bizarre roadside attractions, the decrepit gods reduced to shell games and prostitution. "This is a bad land for Gods," says Shadow.

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Gods die, the very old ones who lose all of their followers. Why does Gaiman include their stories? Well, it certainly lends to the dark atmospherics of his book. I think he also wanted to show how these gods and their worshippers came to this land: some as traders; some in chains; some as warriors and hunters. Here, he says, here is how we ended up elbow-to-elbow with Odin and Ibis-headed gods, gods of the internet, and gods of the land. No wonder Armageddon is inevitable.


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