Chaos reigns at Detroit aid event, page 2
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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:34 AM by marg6043
reply to post by KSPigpen



I got the feeling when looking at pictures like this of a time bomb in this nation ready to blow out.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:37 AM by marg6043
reply to post by 12.21.12



Sorry to say this but where is the hope my friend, because is neither here in my neck of the woods in GA that now holds the highest bank closure in the nation due to fireclosures and loan defaults.



reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:38 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by marg6043



If you want to survive. Head to the mountains.

If you want to fight back, come to Texas.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:41 AM by marg6043
reply to post by 12.21.12



I will love to move to the mountains after all my husband is a retire Marine on benefits, but sadly while I have been through Texas and is a lovely state is many laws and trouble going on that doesn't make it a very attractive place to live for me.




reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:47 AM by marg6043
reply to post by Tyr Sog



As more and more people are falling under unemployment and losing their benefits the reminding tax payer in the nation like us are going to have a hard time supporting the government spending.

Lets blame this to the moron in Washington that while living in splendor are the ones that had brought what is going on in this nation to us while pocketing campaign money to screw the tax payer.

American needs jobs not stimulus for china, India and Japan goods or bailout for the banks.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:48 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by marg6043



Trust me I know.

It is different, but thats why they say Texas is like a different country, and soon it will be. Other states will follow in Texas lead, but not until Texas becomes a shining example of a place where people can thrive, even in the darkest hour.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:49 AM by marg6043
reply to post by 12.21.12



Texas have resources and that is a plus but with the immigration burden it can become very bad for the citizens in that state if it becomes independent.



[edit on 8-10-2009 by marg6043]


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:50 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by KSPigpen



I would rather live on the street than accept a welfare check. But thats my personal choice.

I would rather be free than a slave.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:52 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by marg6043



Sadly I am biting my tongue. Because real power lies within a subject that is against the terms and conditions of ATS.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:56 AM by marg6043
reply to post by 12.21.12



I hope I have not touched a sensitive issue concerning your feelings, for that I Apologize.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:58 AM by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
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post by HunkaHunka



Calling the people of Detroit naive and gullible is off-topic?



Yep.. it's like saying they have hair and drink water... every human is an example of that. Such is true with gullibility.



This topic is ABOUT Detroit and the condition of Detroit.



Yep the condition which is distinct to Detroit... unlike naievte which is not distinct to detroit but to all humans.



The condition of Detroit is directly attributed to the people of Detroit's gullibility and their apathetic approach to holding their elected officials accountable.



I don't know about the second point you just made, but the first one is true for EVERYONE... You, me, everyone is gullible.



You using what I said to try and insult me just because you don't agree with me on many subjects is the only thing off-topic here.


Nope... I'm not trying to insult you, just bringing balance to your off topic point.



reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 12:00 PM by 12.21.12
reply to post by marg6043



No worries.

I just have to bring that particular subject to a different board, sorry.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 02:08 PM by fraterormus
Yes, it is true that Economic conditions in Detroit had been on the downswing since the late 1970's, early 1980's. A mass exodus of people left Detroit during that time in search for better economic prosperity, like rats abandoning a sinking ship. Those left behind should have seen it coming long ago (or the opportunistic who immigrated to Detroit to fill those vacant but dying jobs). However, for whatever reason they didn't, they are now in a desperate situation.

It does no good to blame others for the situation they are in, even if they are partially to blame. Blaming doesn't help anyone. You certainly can't blame the children of those people who are innocent victims and made no wrong choices of their own.

What it comes down to is do you turn a blind eye to those who are suffering or do you try to help in whatever meager ways you can?

Detroit was the first Major Metropolitan City in the United States to both fail and fall. Pay close attention because like dominoes we will see the same repeated elsewhere in the country.

When things get so bad in your neighborhood and you and your family are without job and without home, are you going to be so righteously ideological to turn down a chance for assistance? I think not, especially if you have a child.

I applaud the City of Detroit for offering to provide some of it's hardest hit citizens with housing and utility assistance during the coming winter months. It is sad (and downright frightening) to realize that it isn't even close to enough to cover all those in dire need.

Sure, Welfare Assistance isn't a Panacea Cure-All for Detroit's woes, but it will help at least some of the people in need make it through a harsh winter that they wouldn't be able to survive otherwise. Ultimately, Detroit and it's leaders have to pull Detroit up by the bootstraps and tighten the belt, and find ways to bring sustainability back to Detroit. However, that is something that isn't as big a Crisis as helping the homeless and jobless when there are no jobs to be had in a time when Winter is close at hand. Detroit, just as the rest of the communities in the United States, need to learn the fine art of Triage pdq. It sounds like Detroit is getting a crash-course in such as we speak. The rest of us would be wise to learn from their example.

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