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Obama Trial-Judge Carter orders dates final for trial


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Topic started on 8-10-2009 @ 09:50 AM by j2000


I guess from what I can understand, the motion for dismisal was turned down and the trial is set. I hope the Judge does not have an accident soon.



On September 8, 2009, the Court previously set tentative case management dates. The

Court now orders those dates be made final.

Case Management dates are as follows:

Motion for Summary Judgment Hearing December 7, 2009, at 8:30 a.m.

File Motion for Summary Judgment November 16, 2009

Opposition to Motion for Summary Judgment November 26, 2009

Reply to Motion for Summary Judgment November 30, 2009

Final Pretrial Conference January 11, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.

Jury Trial January 26, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.



www.orlytaitzesq.com...

This was late yesterday on Pacific time. I am sure nobody will cover it until they can call the courts this morning.

I won't wave the birther flag too hard, but there are unanswered questions.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 09:52 AM by j2000


One thing that I did see. They want to add Pelosi to it as well. The double cert. documents that she did in Denver.

I guess now it goes into official discover.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 09:53 AM by Hazelnut


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I'm going to read your link after posting this reply so that I'll be fully informed before making an opinion. But before that, I just wanted to thank you for putting this up. I'll be back.

S&F



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 09:56 AM by j2000


Originally posted by Hazelnut
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I'm going to read your link after posting this reply so that I'll be fully informed before making an opinion. But before that, I just wanted to thank you for putting this up. I'll be back.

S&F


I sat on it for a few hours before putting it up. My wife asked me last night if anything ever happened with that case, so this morning I looked.
Nobody has pick this up at all that I can find. But, so far, Orly has not lied about the court filings and proceedings.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 09:57 AM by kozmo


About time! But... it's like trying to put the bullet back in the gun once it's been fired. The damage is done and I fear that it is irrepairable. If only the core of Americans were at least minimally intelligent - this could have all been avoided had they not succumbed to the empty rheotric and elected a known radical socialist. Oh well, the system was failing anyway. Having Obama in office just accellerates the inevitable failure of America. Maybe it's all just a blessing in disuise.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 10:01 AM by Hazelnut


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There wasn't much more on the link that wasn't covered in the OP. It is interesting that the case is now going forward instead of being dismissed like so many predicted. We shall see what comes of it.

If she (Ms. Taitz) is able to prove that the Kenyan BC is authentic, we will have much, much more to discuss.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 10:04 AM by j2000


Originally posted by Hazelnut
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There wasn't much more on the link that wasn't covered in the OP. It is interesting that the case is now going forward instead of being dismissed like so many predicted. We shall see what comes of it.

If she (Ms. Taitz) is able to prove that the Kenyan BC is authentic, we will have much, much more to discuss.


What I find interesting, is that it was good enough, too make Obama prove his in Court. It has gone way beyond just the BC now. I hope they make Pelosi answer to the double documents as well.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:23 AM by MysterE


I hope you are ready for a barrage of insults from the left, because there are only 3 certainties in life; death, taxes, and the far left getting really pissed every time someone brings up Obama's mysterious past.

-E-



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:26 AM by Hazelnut


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I predict they will stay away until they can gang up on the thread. Its quite predictible. They come in droves.

Since the case has not been dismissed there really isn't much they can say, is there?



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 02:00 PM by j2000


Originally posted by Hazelnut
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I predict they will stay away until they can gang up on the thread. Its quite predictible. They come in droves.

Since the case has not been dismissed there really isn't much they can say, is there?


I guess there is nothing to fear here.
This thread tanked quickly and fell off of the current list on the front page.

Well, we will keep an eye on this as it goes along. And yes, now it will go along.
Most here did not think it would make a go of it.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 02:07 PM by ThaLoccster


Is there no process in the U.S. that would say, find all this out before he was allowed to be elected?

Could anyone run for president, get elected, THEN have to prove they were a natural citizen?

Just seems to me this process would have been done long ago, and he should have been "vetted" at that point.

Could be the reason its allowed to go further, is to shut up the "birthers".

I'm honestly not familiar with it all, but it seems to me that a group is mad obama was elected, and will stop at NOTHING to see him fail/removed/or worse.

When/if this whole venture proves fruitless, what will they try next?



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 02:12 PM by j2000


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As long as it gets a fair day in court, I think that will be it.

The vetting was done lead by Pelosi. She made two different documents to Certify to the states, and what was given in Denver. The language is different and they were both signed on the same day.
There is something not right about it.
They have made a big enough mess of it and it is best if a fair court sorts it out.
I do use the term "Fair", because they have tried and used power to lean on Judges up to this point. I just hope nothing happens to Judge Carter.
I applaud him for seeking the truth, and just the truth.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 03:22 PM by Sestias


It's interesting that John McCain was born in Panama, and none of the "birthers" care about that at all. In their minds he has been proven to be a legal citizen of the U.S., although he has no more evidence of his bona fides than Obama does.

It's interesting that people on the left, like Sen. Hillary Clinton, introduced a motion in Congress to affirm McCain's eligibility to run for president.

No such motion was made by Republicans on Obama's behalf.

Just shows you the difference between the left and the right.

BTW: I think this thread has not gotten a lot of attention because Orly Taitz's many court cases against Obama have failed and she no longer has much credibility.

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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 04:04 PM by Stormdancer777


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www.hillarynme.com...

In response to McCain,

www.hillarynme.com...

SHOCKING! MORE PROOF … MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ALWAYS KNEW OBAMA WAS INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

The truth is that in the 2008 election for POTUS neither John McCain or Barack Obama were eligible to hold the office of president. Donofrio was spot on with his law suit against the New Jersey Secretary of State.

Not only did she allow McCain and Obama’s names on the ballot without checking their citizenship status, but she also allowed Roger Calero, a man born in Nicaragua with a green card to to be placed on the ballot.


But don't just read this part.

www.hillarynme.com...

I'll be back.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 04:18 PM by centurion1211


Originally posted by Sestias
It's interesting that John McCain was born in Panama, and none of the "birthers" care about that at all. In their minds he has been proven to be a legal citizen of the U.S., although he has no more evidence of his bona fides than Obama does.


But to American parents on a U.S. military base. Obama can prove no such thing.

It's interesting that people on the left, like Sen. Hillary Clinton, introduced a motion in Congress to affirm McCain's eligibility to run for president.


Because they understand the truth about McCain.

No such motion was made by Republicans on Obama's behalf.


Because they also know the truth about obama.

Just shows you the difference between the left and the right.


Yes, the left will try to win at all costs - the ends justify the means (democrat manifesto).

BTW: I think this thread has not gotten a lot of attention because Orly Taitz's many court cases against Obama have failed and she no longer has much credibility.

[edit on 8-10-2009 by Sestias]


Knew you couldn't post on this thread without attempting to shoot the messenger instead of the message. So typical ...



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 04:18 PM by oneclickaway


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As I understand it, it is all still up in the air. Judge Carter has still not made his decision on the motion to dismiss, and so discovery is still stayed. It could all still be ruined and the narcissistic communist despot will remain where he is. Shame he isn't made to stand down while they decide if he is eligible. It's a bit like allowing an armed gunman to stay at a children's party while they decide if the gun is loaded or not.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 04:20 PM by j2000


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I would have to say that the Judges failed, not Mrs. Taitz.

I would say that the system failed to allow someone to be POTUS and we know nothing of him. It goes way beyond the BC.

At least McCain served in the Military. Obama was too busy putting Coke up his nose for that, but that is another issue.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 04:23 PM by j2000


Originally posted by oneclickaway
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As I understand it, it is all still up in the air. Judge Carter has still not made his decision on the motion to dismiss, and so discovery is still stayed. It could all still be ruined and the narcissistic communist despot will remain where he is. Shame he isn't made to stand down while they decide if he is eligible. It's a bit like allowing an armed gunman to stay at a children's party while they decide if the gun is loaded or not.



It very well might be, as I said, I just posted what I found.
I just hope, the Judge gets to make his mind up without any pressure from the left, but I really doubt it.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 04:26 PM by oneclickaway


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Ah, I have just found that Orly’s Emergency Ex-parte motion for relief from stay of discovery has been denied.
Big sigh.



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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 09:00 PM by j2000


Originally posted by oneclickaway
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Ah, I have just found that Orly’s Emergency Ex-parte motion for relief from stay of discovery has been denied.
Big sigh.




Not all lost, that was a long shot anyways.
That just keeps the Discovery on hold until Carter makes a decission on the dismissal.
If he dismisses it this late in the game, the PTB stepped in. He would not have let it go this far after so many did not, if he was just going to end it.



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