Strange Cloud Russia -Oct -6-09

I looked at the website for mreporter and one of the people who left a comment said they called the weather service who said it was a Tornado.
We don't have Tornados in this part of the world for some reason.



I am going to call a friend of mine in Moscow and see if he heard anything about it.

I've got to say that's one interesting cloud.

Yes it looks different than the hole punch cloud images which show a thin layer of clouds in an otherwise clear sky. (Which might be caused by an airplane).

However, if we imagine the same effect occurring in a more overcast sky with more clouds, then of course the hole won't break through completely to blue sky, it might just get brighter, and that would appear to be the case in this footage. Even for a natural phenomenon, i find it interesting.

Originally posted by expat2368
...I would hope someone would examine that video and see if it is faked...

It may be faked, but hole punch clouds -- though relatively rare -- are not an "unheard of" occurrence (I've seen a similar one once while in Florida).

The video doesn't look fake, and there are in fact clouds that look like that -- Therefore, I'm leaning toward this being a real video of a hole punch cloud.


EDIT: My memory is failing -- I originally said I saw one near Denver (where I would have been without my family), but my wife reminded me that we saw it together while in Florida.

[edit on 10/8/2009 by Soylent Green Is People]

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
That whats known as a hole punch cloud (or fall streak cloud).

It occurs when ice crystals from high cirrus clouds fall as virga, penetrating a layer of altocumulus cloud below.

Fantastic video that

weatherthings.com...

This is the answer to this video. Just move on...

In aviation we are tought to avoid things like this. And they look even more beautifull(and scary) on some radars.

[edit on 8/10/09 by Tifozi]

I agree with the punch-hole cloud explanation, or some extremely similar phenomenon: of course it's almost impossible to find some exact match, but i think that its odd appearance is due both the ring formation around it and the trick played by light, caused by differences in the tickness of the clouds: the more the layer is thin, the more it will look bright.
I've found a similar formation, i'll post both a screen capture of the one of the OP and it, for comparison purposes:





www.darkroastedblend.com...
It was observed and caught on camera in Mobile, Alabama, on December 2003 (also covered by BBC, see the article).

Regarding the video being fake, i don't think it is.
It was originally submitted here (mobile reporter) with the description:

"A cloud of unusual shape over Moscow. The video was shot at the Moscow Ring Road in moving from Volokolamsky to Novorizhskoe highway.

Then it has been published here, within this article:

(Rough translation)

The phenomenon, which the Muscovites were able to observe in the west of the capital, is due solely to optical effects. So commented issued Vestyami.Ru video specialists Roshydromet.

"The effect of a purely optical, although looks certainly impressive - commented in Roshydromet. - If you look even see his way to sunlight. If you regularly watch the clouds, you can see this, what the most interesting - in different areas the same cloud , one class, which look completely different. It depends on how and when they are formed. In recent days, after Moscow took place a few fronts, and it was an invasion of arctic air from the west the sun lit up - that's what happened. "

Industrial emissions are absolutely nothing to do with, - assured the weather forecasters. - Such effect in such weather, they could not give. If something happens, then the emissions are not collected in the clouds, as it were, in elevated smog. But now in Moscow quite not the type of weather. Smog is formed only when the weather is quiet long, without a hint of precipitation. But in recent days in Moscow blown through everything, all mixed up. So, no smog, and could not be. "

I'm not an expert, but i'd say that the punch-hole cloud makes perfectly sense to me

reply to post by internos


I think the bright ring is caused by that fact that the low cloud cover is very dark and the sky above those clouds is bright -- therefore we can see that brighter sky thought the "ring-shaped void" of the hole-punch cloud.

It appears to me that the bright ring is not a cloud, but rather the absence of a cloud allowing the brighter sky above to shine through.


[edit on 10/8/2009 by Soylent Green Is People]

I did a Google Image search and found one that looks very similiar. Oz weatherman was right.

GOOGLE IMAGE

If the link doesn't work you can check it out by doing a Google Image Search on Punch Hole Clouds. One one I am referring to is in the bottom left corner of the first page.

[edit on 10/8/2009 by sad_eyed_lady]


MOD EDIT: To fix link


[edit on October 8th 2009 by greeneyedleo]

The title really says it all "UFO LIKE cloud" it is a cloud end of story. This video is spreading like wildfire, it has other titles like HAARP UFO cloud, UFO over moscow and whatever else you can think of. In a day or so we will probably see this with bad music in the backround uploaded by our oh so good friends the GFL lol.

Imagine people who saw this rare event 2,000 years ago.
"Oh my God. God is coming."

We haven't changed much, have we?
Only now we have people who know precisely what it is and people still question it.

If you go out, though, and search for pictures of these hole-punch or Fallstreak clouds...in almost all of them, you can see the blue sky behind them. As if there is a "hole" in the clouds.
But in the Moscow pics...there's no sky....no hole. It's more like an object is sitting on and weighing down a section of cloud. Completely dissimilar.

reply to post by OzWeatherman


Thanks for the explanations Oz. You might as well not explain it to the people who want to believe. They'll just debunk sound logic over and over again. Thanks though.

Very neat! I have never seen one of those before. Here in Florida we get pretty boring everyday basic clouds


Also why is this in UFO/Aliens when its a cloud? Shouldnt this be moved??

Originally posted by talisman
I wonder if by chance any of this has anything to do with this?

This was just in August 2009 and there are even more recent events happening.

There are some really strange things going on in the sky over Moscow and if you check out that guys channel you will see why very quickly.


This one is not natural in my mind.

[edit on 8-10-2009 by talisman]

Screw the cloud, I want to know why no one is discussing this video. I fear for America's security because it appears the Russians are light years ahead of us in technology. Supposedly they have a thing called a "tripod" that allows them to record steady videos. Freakin' crazy

Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by Sundancer
reply to post by OzWeatherman

 

I don't know Oz, that doesn't look much like the one you linked.
Nope not at all.

Well like or not, it is a hole punch cloud

I disagree Oz. It may have some similar characteristics to punch hole as far as general shape, but the cloud in OP has a luminousity and a uniformity that makes it too different.

Originally posted by Alethea
I disagree Oz. It may have some similar characteristics to punch hole as far as general shape, but the cloud in OP has a luminousity and a uniformity that makes it too different.

The luminoisty is coming from above the cloud layer. The reason it is so luminous is due to the brightness of the sun above, and the refection of the ice crystals punching through the layer

Likie I said, believe whatever you want, but at least use some logic to explain why I would be wrong. Just remember I observe clouds for a living to, and if you know something about meteorology which I do not know...please share with us your information

Cool video and massive egos..ahhh, the makings of a great thread!!lol.

Whatever caused it, one thing we can all agree on,
it looks awe inspiring. I would probably $**T my pants if I looked out the window and saw that in real life.
Cool!

[edit on 9-10-2009 by Jesus H Christ]

Got a link about this for you talisman just started a thread and found out you beat me sorry.
LINK www.dailymail.co.uk...
S+F
It sure is strange.?

THANKYOU

www.weathervortex.com...

What caused the disturbance to begin ? One possible explanation is a jet plane. Visible satellite imagery that day suggested several "hole punch" clouds over both southern Mississippi and Alabama. These coincided with jet contrails.

Click here and you will see a photo of "hole punch" clouds taken in Australia with an airplane contrail nearby. An airplane passing through the mixed cloud layer while ascending or descending would likely disrupt the delicate coexistence between the ice crystals and the supercooled liquid water droplets.

A second possible explanation is that small scale atmospheric vertical motions (both up and down) related to the jet stream brought ice crystals downward into the moist cloud layer, thus effectively 'setting off' the cyclic process described above. One thing is for sure...

Without an ability to directly measure these small scale vertical motions and the quantities of temperature and moisture directly within and adjacent to the actual clouds, we can only speculate on what caused this common but relatively infrequent awesome phenomena to occur !...

photo courtesy of: Gary Beeler, Warning Coordination Meteorologist, National Weather Service Mobile, Alabama

I once saw a cloud like that it was pretty interesting.

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Likie I said, believe whatever you want, but at least use some logic to explain why I would be wrong. Just remember I observe clouds for a living to, and if you know something about meteorology which I do not know...please share with us your information

I think people just want to believe a little bit too much...

This thread is a good example of why religion still exists.