Doing the math, things get interesting.

Let's say they send out 100 million doses of this LAIV vaccine. If 50% shed it, then that's 50 million people shedding live virus. And if 2.4% (worst case, according to their studies) of those shedders infect others, then that means 1.2 million people get infected.

The Math:
100,000,000 * 0.5 = 50,000,000
50,000,000 * 0.024 = 1,200,000

Of course, I have no idea how many LAIV doses they are planning on distributing, but you get the idea. Sounds like a great way to distribute your engineered virus.

Originally posted by BaronVonGodzilla

Originally posted by antiopression
Remember when the flu consisted of fever, runny nose and generally throwing up.

This swine flu is all in the lungs. It no flu. It's an airborne WMD, and they are covering it up.

The particles making people sick are nano sized, penetrating deep into the lungs.

The side affects of not getting proper O2 intake is what is causing "flu like" symptoms. And that's how the docs describe it. "Flu like", meaning it has nothing to do with flu.

Right on the money, Antioppression.

ATS REMEMBER THIS:

NOBODY ON THE PRODUCTION OR SUPPLY SIDE OF THIS WILL TAKE THE VACCINE!

SO DON'T YOU TAKE IT EITHER! STAND UP FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR RIGHTS!

Thanks BVG. And thanks for putting that extra p in my handle. After I signed up, I realized I spelled oppression wrong. Oh well.

People are getting the "swine flu" and then docs are saying, "well, you still need the vaccine".

That alone should raise huge red flags. The whole point (supposedly) to a vaccine is to lightly expose on to the virus, thus building up antibodies.

If one has already has the flu, the vaccine should be unnecessary.

But I feel getting around all those endocrine inhibitors we are being subjected to is really the end time obstacle. People CAN'T wake up, because they are too drugged up.

I went to the doc this morning.
I had to go on Neoral.
I thought what my doctor said was interesting.
He said (to me because of the drug he put me on) absolutely do not take the flu shot.

But he went further, and said "Do not be around people that have HAD the flu shot either."

He said that immunizations are designed to protect populations as a whole, but not any particular individual.

I figure people will have to be shedding the flu virus, if he told me to avoid people that have had the shot.

Note who they want receiving the vaccines first. Hospital workers and kids in school. Why? Captured audiences are in there midst....and lots of them, in tight quarters. This is a man-made pandemic if it succeeds. These people have evil intents. Do not take the shot. Don't let your family and friends take the shot, and spread the word.

Originally posted by BaronVonGodzilla

Originally posted by antiopression
Remember when the flu consisted of fever, runny nose and generally throwing up.

This swine flu is all in the lungs. It no flu. It's an airborne WMD, and they are covering it up.

The particles making people sick are nano sized, penetrating deep into the lungs.

The side affects of not getting proper O2 intake is what is causing "flu like" symptoms. And that's how the docs describe it. "Flu like", meaning it has nothing to do with flu.

Right on the money, Antioppression.

ATS REMEMBER THIS:

NOBODY ON THE PRODUCTION OR SUPPLY SIDE OF THIS WILL TAKE THE VACCINE!

SO DON'T YOU TAKE IT EITHER! STAND UP FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR RIGHTS!

Really? That's a big statement!!!!

Can you back it up with data that says 'nobody' on the production or supply side will take it? Hardly believable, sorry but facts are required here!

And I am dying to know, who is 'they'? Where is the evidence for their existence? Satanists? Illuminati? NWO? Bohemian Grove? Masons? The Usual Suspects starring Benicio Del Toro?

Whoever 'they' are, what is their motive for creating an 'airborne WMD' and how could you expect the entire medical profession and world governments to either be in on it or too stupid to realize what's going on?

Is it to kill off the working/consumer class during a global depression? That logic doesn't even make sense as a precursor to a plan...what's the next step and who do they expect to be alive to take that step?

BTW if i remember correctly, flu is short for Influenza, which is Italian for 'Influence', which harkens back to the days when foul humors and demons made you sick, not viruses and bacteria. There is no one 'flu', there is a huge spectrum that is represented by the word 'flu'. So flu-like means flu, it doesn't mean secret NWO killoff WMD. Unless I am wrong and that IS what it means.

My reasons for not wanting to take the vaccine have nothing to do with secret world domination because let's face it, if that's the plan then there's not a lot I can do about it. My reasons are at the other end of the spectrum...the governments of the world are making a knee-jerk reaction out of a fear of looking incompetent, and profiteering pharmaceutical companies are happy to oblige them by rushing # out the door with little concern about it's efficacy and safety.



[edit on 8-10-2009 by ImplausibleDeniability]

I was presented some pretty good info by someone at work today about this vaccine (a lot of people are frightened over this prospect) and I have spent the last two hours researching the composition of the vaccine.

The alternative theorists are spinning this thing as if this vaccine is going to kill off a bunch of folks, or as this thread suggests, be used as a catalyst for a much more dangerous strand of flu. In respects to the topic of this thread, I don't think you will see anything more "dangerous". What I think you COULD POSSIBLY see is that people given the mist become an unaffected carrier of it, driving up the demand of the vaccine, but no more deadly than it is now.

That being said, this IS a troublesome event. Why? Because they are using it to inject implants, as we all know.
This can be verified. I've never been one for worrying about the Government releasing a super-bug to destroy the population. I think that the logistics of such a thing are incalculable. They may release bugs, yeah, but nothing that is devastating. Just My Humble Opinion.

I'm thinking about starting another thread that sorta' sums up what is going on and what my thoughts are. I'm hesitant though, as many of the points in the story have already been covered here.

Originally posted by JayinAR
What I think you COULD POSSIBLY see is that people given the mist become an unaffected carrier of it, driving up the demand of the vaccine, but no more deadly than it is now.

Thank you ATS for all the great replies. And thank you JayinAR for this reply.

People don't need to believe the theory of a manufactured, engineered or cocktailed strain of virus being used in the FluMist vaccine. This is just something that is being put forward to the community so we can research and come up with the facts. I didn't give any evidence for the "switcharoo" part because I don't have any. Could it be done? Absolutely. Is it being done? I have no evidence of that at this time.

That being said, the fact of the matter is that people who take the FluMist vaccine are passing a live influenza strain (whatever it may be) to the rest of the population. FluMist is spreading influenza. There are going to be many people out there who get infected by vaccinated individuals, people who otherwise may have remained healthy and flu free.

[edit on 8-10-2009 by METACOMET]

...I am strong and healthy. I have a strong immune system. I am not getting any kind of Flu shot....H1N1...BR549....whatever you want to call it.

I have been watching the entire scenario unfold and agree with you completely!

The mist is going to be used to actually create pandemic conditions.

Since the flu season hasn't even begun, and many are looking at the vaccine with skepticism, conditions to inspire panic need to be put in place to frighten people into taking the SECOND vaccine in the winter.

The mist has the live, manufactured flu virus. If that doesn't get you, the second shot will.

This is my opinion that I have come to after research and observation. Feel free to disagree, but frankly, anybody who takes that vaccine or allows their children to have it is ill-informed, hasn't been paying attention or is just plain stupid.

Can anyone research and post a reliable biological index of the FluMist vaccine? Does the FDA website have this information? I've been looking all over, but I cannot find a biological index for FluMist from a government or pharmacuetical site.

[edit on 8-10-2009 by METACOMET]

Originally posted by antiopression

Originally posted by ChemBreather
Well, I saw this youtube with a woman ranting about the swineflu, she thought maybe the swineflu could infact be the avian flu, and they are affaid to go public about it.

She speculated also that could be the reason the victims who dies from the swine flu has avian flu symtoms in the autopsies...
There are avian flu vaccine 'stuff' in the swine flu vaccine and they are so to speak 'pushing' tamiflu which is for avian flu...

What do you guys think of that theory ??

I think you're on to something.

But I believe the whole flu rhetoric is to cover up the affects of Chemtrailing.

[edit on 8-10-2009 by antiopression]

Could be, there are so much CRAP about everything, even here at ATS, where Conspiary is what we should debate and figure out, some dudes Flat out denies the very existence of the Chemtrails, yet alot of us see them spray, and there are 1000 on 1000 of vid's and pictures of it...
I see them with my own eyes, I know they spray, and the dillema is, what FOR and what is in them..

Alot of people think Dr. Tru Ott talks truth, but he lies when he say Chemtrails are real, so , Hmm, what is up with that ?
Either a person is trust worthy, or he is not, dont you agree ?

Chemtrails are proven to contain Barium, and Barium reduse the body's immune defence, and that would explain the rapid spread of the Schwine Flu, right ??

So let me see if I got this right...

if you go to any medical care facility that has mandated 'the shot', you have a 50-50 chance of being in contact with someone who has a ~2% chance of shedding viruses onto you, causing you to potentially contract this flu.

Did we immunize people, or just turn them into low level typhoid marys and virus incubators for a week? and turned them loose on an already unwell population (people in hospitals).

Originally posted by Sundancer
Kinda makes you wonder doesn't it??? I was just watching a video about a flu mist that was found to contain two H5N1 DNA markers . I think it's important to get all information out to the masses so they can make a more informed decision. Is it true vitamin C will be outlawed by the EU as of January?
If so, that would make me nervous.

S&F

[edit on 8-10-2009 by Sundancer]

Why would they outlaw Vitamin C? Do they want a Scurvy epidemic? Are they going to ban Orange juice?

[edit on 8-10-2009 by js331975]

Originally posted by ChemBreather

Could be, there are so much CRAP about everything, even here at ATS, where Conspiary is what we should debate and figure out, some dudes Flat out denies the very existence of the Chemtrails, yet alot of us see them spray, and there are 1000 on 1000 of vid's and pictures of it...
I see them with my own eyes, I know they spray, and the dillema is, what FOR and what is in them..

Yes, ATS is not what it seems.

You will see that people get the swine flu twice. Supposedly impossible.

I believe Barium is to throw us off the true chemicals they are spraying.

It's an elaborate mixture of ionized silver and ammonium nitrates.

Ionized silver doesn't cause argyria, so docs aren't picking up on it.

It has the same affect though. Heavy metals poisoning. What is the best way to poison someone slowly? With heavy metals. It's been done for centuries.

Silver, stays in the environment, getting into water, soil, etc. It is extremely toxic to aquatic environments and plant life.

Do a study of increased respiratory illnesses, coupled with the fact that silver prices have tripled recently, and it's not too hard to come to a conclusion.

This is a biological attack on a global scale. Don't question the government, and doctors are god, is the new motto.