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posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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Why Obama-World Is Dangerous


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In President Obama's utopia he is fine with the idea of "American Exceptionalism" being challenged or even turned upside down. To Obama, an America that stands tall in contrast to others seems arrogant. To our enemies, an America that seems ashamed of herself seems weak.Although he's 48-years-old President Obama is, in many ways, still just a lost boy. He seeks to live, not in the real world, but in a utopia.
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posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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Obama is making major mistakes at every turn:

Obama's stinging rebuke at the Copenhagen Olympics meeting last week showed that Obama is relying on his personality not strong leadership.

His reliance on Nancy Pelosi on domestic issues has cost him dearly this year and apparently little of his domestic agenda will get done.

In Afganistan Obama has spent more than a month wringing his hands, with military commanders begging him for more troups, meanwhile 43 more troops died.

On Iran Obama made some stern assessments, made strong demands and has spent the rest of the time backtracking. No one thinks he will apply force so Iran has become more bold and blatant.

We have no hope that Obama will rebuild a strong economy in the US because frankly Obama doesn't believe in free enterprise. All his friends were socialists. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is what Obama believes.

Then there's health care. New poll numbers from Rasmussen find that the majority of the American people support health care reform but they do not, under any circumstances, support a government controlled "public option" -- or takeover. Obama will not support legal reform or increasing insurance competition or a whole host of other effective measures because it won't benifit his special interest groups like lawyers.

"Obama seems to feel that the American people are too "unevolved" to understand his political message and methods. All of these realities are just pushing the president further into an altered state. They're shaping his worldview and it's having a disastrous impact on the lives of average Americans."



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posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 11:46 PM
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posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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I have been deploying my 'if you ignore them long enough they will just go away' strategy here. I have ignored every President since Nixon and well sooner or later they all get the hint and go away!

Obama will go away too and we will get yet another ever worse President to ignore.

Of course this would not happen if everyone just didn't vote and totally ignored the whole corrupt government system.

No one would get elected because they would just each have one vote for them selves, from them selves.

That would probably give the government a strong hint that the people are displeased with it.

Do not feed or pet the beast.

As far as a strong America goes OP, I strongly suggest ignoring the rest of the world and it will stay right where it is!

We can stay right where we are and ignore one another!

The world will be safer and it will be a whole lot cheaper, and people won't need to die all the time.

Fox News like CNN and MSNBC sell anger, hate, jealousy, paranoia and fear.

This is not ignoring the beast, this is giving it attention and feeding it.

Don't feed or pet the beast, igrnore it, and it will go away!

[edit on 7/10/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by plumranch


Obama is making major mistakes at every turn:

Obama's stinging rebuke at the Copenhagen Olympics meeting last week showed that Obama is relying on his personality not strong leadership.


This was a damn if you do damn if you dont situation... he had to show his face for this, I think he made a good choice by going...this wasnt an Obama's loss it was the international community telling America...WE DONT WANT YOU.... who can fault them after 8 years of W.


His reliance on Nancy Pelosi on domestic issues has cost him dearly this year and apparently little of his domestic agenda will get done.

I agree some what to this but it is not so much that heis relying on Pelosi, its more like he shares a lot of views that many liberal democrats have, Obama is not a moderate thats for sure.


In Afganistan Obama has spent more than a month wringing his hands, with military commanders begging him for more troups, meanwhile 43 more troops died.

Like the economy you cant expect Obama to come out with a migic wand and fix what has been done wrong for eight years, you say Obama has spend a month taking his time to devise a clear and attainable objective, what about Bush 8 years of just blatantly ignoring commanders and firing Generals who oppose his views at the cost of thousand of american military personnel?


On Iran Obama made some stern assessments, made strong demands and has spent the rest of the time backtracking. No one thinks he will apply force so Iran has become more bold and blatant.

If Iran has a bomb is not becasue of Obama...if because the Imperialistic desire of the Bush Administration of dominate the Middle East. Force should be the last option....I dont get why some people think it should be the only option.


We have no hope that Obama will rebuild a strong economy in the US because frankly Obama doesn't believe in free enterprise. All his friends were socialists. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is what Obama believes.


This is just plain laughable....the republicans are the KINGS of bailouts... What if it is for the rich is good but if for the poor it means socialism? Please give me a break!!


Then there's health care. New poll numbers from Rasmussen find that the majority of the American people support health care reform but they do not, under any circumstances, support a government controlled "public option" -- or takeover. Obama will not support legal reform or increasing insurance competition or a whole host of other effective measures because it won't benifit his special interest groups like lawyers.

And this is just plain wrong as he is including in his bill caps for malpractice...which by the way many states have already instituted.


"Obama seems to feel that the American people are too "unevolved" to understand his political message and methods. All of these realities are just pushing the president further into an altered state. They're shaping his worldview and it's having a disastrous impact on the lives of average Americans."


Obama was elected because he offered change...is it for good or for bad time will tell... republicans had 8 years and lets recap her shortly what they did:
-Left the economy in ruins
-Send our military to die in unnnecessary, concocted and illegal war
-Didnt do anything about healthcare except arrest a few old folks who went to Canada to buy drugs at less cost
-Make the entire world hate America
- The lovers of free enterprise bailout all their friends without even considering a little help for the struggling ordinary folk
- Huge tax breaks for the rich, no help for the ordinary folk
- In the process of sending our military to die, they make rich some of their closest friends.
- Everyone that oppose their agenda was unamerican or a terrorist.
- Couldnt even deal with illegal immigration...which is for republican what healthcare is for democrats.

I find it amazing that people expect so much from Obama and forget that our country was flush down the toilet for the past 8 years of the truly most incompetent goverment this country has had in HISTORY!



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:11 AM
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Hello October called Barrys the president now..
Instead of deflecting the direction we came from why dont we talk about the direction were heading..

And Barrys administration is the most COMMUNIST in HISTORY..

BTW I didnt vote for bush either..I am a minority and i am poor..So chose wisely on what you use to volly back..



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by Redpillblues
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Hello October called Barrys the president now..
Instead of deflecting the direction we came from why dont we talk about the direction were heading..

And Barrys administration is the most COMMUNIST in HISTORY..

BTW I didnt vote for bush either..I am a minority and i am poor..So chose wisely on what you use to volly back..


And I'm a current service member that has had to dealt with the incompetency of our last President for the last 5 years I been in the military, but I served proudly because I dont serve leaders I serve the country.

Obama is the President now and time will tell if he will be judge as a Nazi, Communist, Socialist or what ever other smear adjective you wish to use. Also time will tell if he end up being one of the best President this country ever had.

My point is that he cant undo in a year what has been done wrong for the past 8 years or longer.

Its so funny Obama is a communist cause he wants to improve the quality of life of the poor, what that makes Bush and republicans who only legislated to improve the quality of life of the rich for the past 8 years?

I respect conservatives...I have the utmost respect for the Ron Paul folk...but any republican that wants to smear Obama because of his agenda is the most hipocrite person in this country.

[edit on 8-10-2009 by Bunch]



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:38 AM
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nice try..Im a political athiest..always have since I served..Son you better look at his close and personal advisors..That will tell you everything you need to know..If you beleive in serving the country,wich I encourage you do,i sugest you look a little deeper into the commander in theif..
If it quaks like a duck,walks like a duck,most likely its a duck..But they dont want to call it a duck..



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by plumranch
Obama's stinging rebuke at the Copenhagen Olympics meeting


Obama, as with the president of Brazil, as with the prime minister of Japan, went to Copenhagen to promote the Olympics to come to US soil. A potential job creator, and a way to boost moral. Obama didnt promise the Olympics to the US, he certainly didnt make it one of his campaign promises.

Former president Bush travelled to the Beijing Olympics for 4 days, during the pending financial crises. As usual the right kept shut. While I had no issue with him supporting US representitives in the sport, it certainly shows great comparisons between the deafening silence during Bushes vacation to China, and the whining over Obamas attempt to promote the games to America.


His reliance on Nancy Pelosi on domestic issues


Can you give an example? Isnt Pelosi house speaker? Isnt it congresses responsibility to deal with domestic issues as well? Wasnt congress blamed for doing nothing? Now its blamed for doing too much?


In Afganistan Obama has spent more than a month wringing his hands


Obama spent time focusing on Afghanistan as with other matters. He was not spending time on Afghanistan exclusively.


On Iran Obama made some stern assessments, made strong demands


I actually agree with you on that one. There is an awful lot of focus over Iran over this assumption that "it will develop a WMD" when North Korea has already developed one capable of reaching Alaska and that Israel has 200 of them undeclared. Obama should stop trying to focus on Iran to keep afew warhawks happy. The republicans and dems should let it go as well. We are not the police of the world. Its not our business.


We have no hope that Obama will rebuild a strong economy


You have no hope that Obama will rebuild a strong economy. Other people have personall opinions over that matter. Its not "we", its really "you" and your personal analysis. Its going to take more than a year for this economy to recover regardless of who heads the table. It took us years to get into this mess, it certainly will take years to get out.


Obama doesn't believe in free enterprise.


Again thats your view. In anycase for 8 years the market was left to run wild, and it certainly got us a long way eh? In actual fact alot of the blame over Obama and the Democratic congress is the fact they have not done much over the time they have assumed power. Obama has done little to regulate the Market, its been relatively the same since Clinton and Bush de-regulated the markets in the late 90's, early 2o00's.


All his friends were socialists


You mean the people he was associated with? If im at a party and I make small talk with an individual who is a communist, does it give you the right to label me a communist? Do I not have a mind of my own?


Then there's health care. New poll numbers from Rasmussen find that the majority of the American people support health care reform but they do not, under any circumstances, support a government controlled "public option"



Obama will not support legal reform or increasing insurance competition


Over the years healthcare has been increasing due to in part collective price marking by health insurance companies. Promoting more entrants into the healthcare industry will not change collectice price increases neither will it change the rights of these businesses to refuse people based on pre-existing conditions which they all do collectively, will not stop them for refusing treatment for patients based on weak excuses.


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And try to visit more factually impartial websites.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:58 AM
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What did Bush do to you?

You got a pay raise every year, a build up of equipment and life in general in the military was pretty great.

Bush, like him or hate him, was a good morale boost for the military and it was much needed after Clinton. But you are to young to know anything about that.

I would love another 4 years of Bush and you will to when those pay raises stop coming and the price of goods go up, your MOS (unless you are combat arms) gets shelved forcing you to reclass or get out and deployments get longer and longer due to the fact that people aren't signing up.

5 years in the military?

The sand in my boots is older then that.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 01:14 AM
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and as barry him hauls around on the generals request of more men,men are loosing moral, loosing lives and most of all loosing respect for the man in the highest ranks..All so that he can play the political game and not piss off anyone..This is what is called a week leader..A week leader is someone you dont want in a foxhole with you..

Im in the camp of either pull out every man and women over there or give the boots on the ground what they need when they need it to get the job done..You cant play both and win a game of baseball let alone a war..

But your way of thinking is what is going to lead our oath from the oath to serve the country to the oath to serve the president..Witch you have said you do not..So you seemed confused..or is that your un educated by being young and inexperianced in the world?..



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by Southern Guardian


And try to visit more factually impartial websites.


Please give an example?it seems that fox is the only place to get something other than the states propaganda anymore..

barry had said it himself''if you wanna know what im about,look at who I surround my self with''

Sooo
Am I stupid to think that hes a socialist, or marxist or communist?



[edit on 8-10-2009 by Redpillblues]



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 02:33 AM
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Am I stupid to think that hes a socialist, or marxist or communist?


Are all of these terms interchangeable to you? Are you aware of the definitions of each and the differences between the them? Can you provide examples as to what Obama is doing that is different from any of his predecessors?



[edit on 8-10-2009 by iamcamouflage]



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 03:00 AM
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I agree some what to this but it is not so much that heis relying on Pelosi, its more like he shares a lot of views that many liberal democrats have, Obama is not a moderate thats for sure.


Thanks for that!

Obama relies heavily on all his fellow democratic leaders and czars to come up with ideas and follow through on them in Congress.

In my humble opinion Nancy Pelosi has the an intellectual and political appeal superior to my Labrador but just barely and my Lab is better looking. Nancy and Reid were not a wise choice. He should have done it himself but that is not Obama's style. He doesn't have (many) original ideas apparently. Lawyers are not good at making decisions, they look at all sides, like Obama.



what about Bush 8 years of just blatantly ignoring commanders and firing Generals who oppose his views at the cost of thousand of american military personnel?


Blame Bush?




I find it amazing that people expect so much from Obama and forget that our country was flush down the toilet for the past 8 years of the truly most incompetent goverment this country has had in HISTORY!


Blame Bush?

Obama promised to save us!



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 05:33 AM
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Obama had precious little political experience/ background when running for President, a quick glance at his history showed that it was big on fluff but rather lacking in substance (and even some of the substance was rather dubious, harking back to Chicago days)

This, coupled with the messaniac nature of his supporters, and the majority of the media luvvies, always spelled disappointment



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 05:46 AM
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AHHHHH Obama is evil and going to destroy the world! AHHHHHH run! RUN SCREAMING FROM THE EVIL MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE! AHHHHHH!



Let's see,

Obama wants people to have health care (that SOB!)

Obama wants our children to stop dropping out of school (Oh the evil of it all)

Obama wants to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US (good LORD did it just get colder in here?)

Obama wants the world to stop hating us. (How DARE he!)

I think Fox news is the one promoting the scare tactics.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by Bunch
Obama is the President now and time will tell if he will be judge as a Nazi, Communist, Socialist or what ever other smear adjective you wish to use.

He's all of the above AND those aren't 'smear' adjectives.
They are accurate descriptions of an absolutely horrible nightmare of a POTUS.


Also time will tell if he end up being one of the best President this country ever had.

Time already IS telling. He was elected one year ago and he's already one of the worst pieces of junk ever to live in the White House. Bush started the mess, but Obama has made it FAR worse.

Afghanistan will go down in history as Obama's war that he lost. It is lost the same way Vietnam was lost. He's repeating history.

Hey Obama ... do it right or get the hell out!
Instead, he's doing it half way - same way Vietnam was lost.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 05:55 AM
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The only thing that is dangerous to the world today, is the anglo american empire. Uk and america, are just the worst examples, of absolute trash to be running our world,a nd they are no example to anyone on earth as to how to live.

Corruption, violence the norm that these two countries bring around the world. Then they use hollywood, to make you believe the opposite.

America must of done horrendous things during ww2, to win the war. But what does hollywood do, they romanticise it, to make uk, and america into heroes.

America has got to be one of the most dangeorus examples of a country the human race has had, to lead us.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 06:01 AM
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the right-wing mantra is now..."if american government is in democratic control, the american government has to fail, and we will keep doing everything we can to make this happen.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 06:05 AM
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Let's see ...

Obama wants to redistribute the wealth and steal from the productive in order to reward those who aren't.... even to the point of ignoring the Constitution.



Obama wants to ration health care and make all our taxes higher in order to pay for our worse health care. Obama lied ... granny died.

Obama wants to play corrupt Chicago style politics with all his nafarious underworld buddies .

Obama wants to disarm our country and leave us open to attacks.



Obama wants to go on an unending apology tour around the world, apologizing for America which is WRONG and unnecessary. Hell, he even apologized for America at the Olympic committee meeting last week. :shk:

Obama wants children in the US schools indoctrinated into his marxist way of thought. Sure kiddies ... stay in school so your left wing, NEA backed, 'teachers' can squawk at you about 'global warming' and how bad America is. And afterwards, he wants them all to join his youth army.

Obama is a racist piece of crap . Have you read his books? Rather interesting. In his own words he tells how he sought out the marxist teachers and what he thinks about white people ... 'that's how white folks will do you'....

Poor 'typical white person' granny. I wonder if she's spinning in her grave.




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