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reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 12:00 AM by talisman
Originally posted by warrenb
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post by DimensionalDetective



check out this brand new UFO video from Germany Oct 4 2009
incredible





Can you start a thread on that? Wow that was interesting. Thanks!


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 12:05 AM by kdial1
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As mentioned before this has been debunked already you can search for the thread if you want to see the debunking. oooo equake just went off another EQ in Vanuatu 5.1.

-Kdial1


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 12:08 AM by talisman
Originally posted by kdial1
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post by talisman



As mentioned before this has been debunked already you can search for the thread if you want to see the debunking. oooo equake just went off another EQ in Vanuatu 5.1.

-Kdial1


Where was it debunked?



reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 12:10 AM by kdial1
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Right here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now back on topic, does anyone see any correlation to my earlier post? Apparently they are working with the G7, congress and the Obama administration....seems like this date would be the most opportune time and TIMEWAVE is calling on this date for something dramatic happening...

-Kdial1


[edit on 8-10-2009 by kdial1]


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 02:11 AM by badmedia
Originally posted by RedSnapper
With all of the "I'm not holding my breath" type of comments typical to any disclosure claims, is it any wonder it hasn't happened? One does not even need to open a thread here to know its contents and the mindset of its constituents. Of all places, here at ats we pride ourselves for our open minded skepticism. Unfortunately the limit to that level of open-mindedness is set by the most salient contributors and the rest seem to fall into place along with them. It's sad to see considering the nature of the topics here. Deny ignorance, yes, but also deny unprogressive thought patterns as well. Remember, our thoughts create our future. And it isn't any sort of new age idea. I implore all of you who do not understand this to look at where you are in relation to your mentality, I know you will find something. It's true within ats.


Hang on. Why do I first "need to believe" before anything can happen? That is the thing here. We aren't talking about if we believe there is life out there, we aren't talking about if we believe if other life has visited from time to time. We are simply talking about someone's prediction on when it will become mainstream knowledge.

If I believe or disbelieve him should have no effect on if these things are real, or if they will happen.

Now, I personally think the odds of their not being life out there are exteremely low, to the point of not even really being measurable. So I believe there is no life out there.

I think given the vast amounts of time and so forth, we have probably been visited from time to time. That is not as high of a chance, but I think the odds are considerable. Especially since people talked about things coming from that direction, before they even knew there were other planets and so forth.

I even entertain the idea they have effects on earth and society. But again, the odds are not as high as the other 2.

So I believe there is life out there, I believe they have visited from time to time. But I do not at all believe in individual stories and claims from people. I am very skeptical when it comes to individual claims, because anyone can simply make these things up.

And so I scrutinize things, I test and check them as much as possible. I am thankful for skeptics and people who point out the fake things. I don't care for people wearing glasses as thick as coke bottles telling me about trained observers, but that is different.

I'm open minded because I do not accept or dismiss peoples claims by default. I see them as possible, unless proven otherwise. But the more someone wants me to "believe", the less I trust them. And when someone tells me it's all based on what one "believes", rather than what can be understood and known then I think that person is just flat out wrong and is reaching - a sign of an agenda.

Being open minded is a big part of finding the truth, no doubt about it. However, you still have to be able to tell the difference between fact and fiction, and be able to filter out the fiction if you ever hope to find the truth.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 02:15 AM by acmpnsfal
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Sometimes the truth is stranger than the fiction.

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