reply to post by sirnex
I'm not sure sure that's right, depending on the context and whether you subscribe to the studies and postulations of some modern scientists.
"The God Theory" by Bernard Haisch
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Haisch is an astrophysicist whose professional positions include Staff Scientist at the Lockheed Martin Solar and Astrophysics Laboratory, Deputy
Director for the Center for Extreme Ultraviolet Astrophysics at the University of California, Berkeley, and Visiting Fellow at the Max-Planck
Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Garching, Germany. His work has led to close involvement with NASA; he is the author of over 130 scientific
papers; and was the Scientific Editor of the Astrophysical Journal for nine years, as well as the editor in chief of the Journal of Scientific
Exploration.
an excerpt
If you think of whitte light as a metaphor of infinite, formless potential, the colors on a slide or frame of film become a structured reality
grounded in the polarity that comes about through intelligent subtraction from that absolute formless potential. It results from the limitation of the
unlimited. I contend that this metaphor provides a comprehensible theory for the creation of a manifest reality (our universe) from the selective
limitation of infinite potential (God)...
If there exists an absolute realm that consists of infinite potential out of which a created realm of polarity emerges, is there any sensible reason
not to call this "God"? Or to put it frankly, if the absolute is not God, what is it? For our purposes here, I will indentify the Absolute with God.
More precisely I will call the Absolute the Godhead. Applying this new terminology to the optics analogy, we can conclude that our physical universe
comes about when the Godhead selectively limits itself, taking on the role of Creator and manifesting a realm of space and time and, within that
realm, filtering out some of its own infinite potential...
Viewed this way, the process of creation is the exact opposite of making something out of nothing. It is, on the contrary, a filtering process that
makes something out of everything. Creation is not capricious or random addition; it is intelligent and selective subtraction. The implications of
this are profound. If the Absolute is the Godhead, and if creation is the process by which the Godhead filters our parts of its own infinite potential
to manifest a physical reality that supports experience, then the stuff that is left over, the residue of this process, is our physical universe, and
ourselves included. We are nothing less than a part of that Godhead - quite literally.
Next, by Ervin Laszlo
Science and the Akashic Field, an Integral Theory of Everything, 2004
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And, his other seminal work
Science and the Reenchantment of the Cosmos: The Rise of the Integral Vision of Reality
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Ervin Laszlo is considered one of the foremost thinkers and scientists of our age, perhaps the greatest mind since Einstein. His principal focus of
research involves the Zero Point Field. He is the author of around seventy five books (his works having been translated into at least seventeen
languages), and he has contributed to over 400 papers. Widely considered the father of systems philosophy and general evolution theory, he has worked
as an advisor to the Director-General of the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization. He was also nominated for the Nobel
Peace Prize in both 2004 and 2005. A multidisciplinarian, Laszlo has straddled numerous fields, having worked at universities as a professor of
philosophy, music, futures studies, systems science, peace studies, and evolutionary studies. He was a sucessful concert pianist until he was thirty
eight.
In his view, the zero-point field (or the Akashic Field, as he calls it) is quite literally the "mind of God".
Naming Hal Puthoff, Roger Penrose, Fritz-Albert Popp, and a handful of others as "front line investigators", Laszlo quotes Puthoff who says of the
new scientific paradigm:
[What] would emerge would be an increased understanding that all of us are immersed, both as living and physical beings, in an overall
interpenetrating and interdependant field in ecological balance with the cosmos as a whole, and that even the boundary lines between the physical and
"metaphysical" would dissolve into a unitary viewpoint of the universe as a fluid, changing, energetic/informational cosmological unity."
an excert from Science and the Akashic Field, an Integral Theory of Everything
Akasha (a . ka . sha) is a Sanskrit word meaning "ether": all-pervasive space. Originally signifying "radiation" or "brilliance", in Indian
philosophy akasha was considered the first and most fundamental of the five elements - the others being vata (air), agni (fire), ap (water), and
prithivi (earth). Akasha embraces the properties of all five elements: it is the womb from which everything we percieve with our senses has emerged
and into which everything will ultimately re-descend. The Akashic Record (also called The Akashic Chronicle) is the enduring record of all that
happens, and has ever happened, in space and time."
Laszlo's view of the history of the universe is of a series of universes that rise and fall, but are each "in-formed" by the existence of the
previous one. In Laszlo's mind, the universe is becoming more and more in-formed, and within the physical universe, matter (which is the
crystallization of intersecting pressure waves or an interference pattern moving through the zero-point field) is becoming increasing in-formed and
evolving toward higher forms of consciousness and realization.
a liitle more to follow, so that people can get the whole picture of the new paradigm of sicentific inquiry and why it involves the "mind of God"
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In discussing the metaphysical implications of the identification of the zero-point field, Laszlo specifically notes the fact that it can contain an
infinite number of "waves" of information:
This conception corresponds to a perennial intuition also articulated in Hindu Cosmology. There the almost infinitely varied things and forms of the
manifest world are united in an essential oneness at a deeper level. At the fundamental level of reality the forms of existing things dissolve into
formlessness, living organisms exist in a state of pure potentiality, and dynamic functions condense into static stillness. All attributes of the
manifest world merge into a state beyond attributes. Time, space, and causality, are transcended in a state of pure being; the state of Brahman.
Absolute reality is the reality of Brahman; the manifest world enjoys but a derived, secondary reality - mistaking it for the real, is the illusion of
maya.
On the mind and the human being
A comparatively evolved system, such as the human, has a comparatively evolved brain and thus a correspondingly articulated mental potential. The
endows the human brain with a highly evolved capacity for recieving sensory signals from the manifest domain, and nonsensory in-formation from the
virtual domain [ie: the zero-point field]. In regard to the latter, the brain is genetically informed by the wave function of the universe and
specifically in-formed by the wave function of the social and ecological systems in which the individual participates. Sensory information
constitutes the familiar contents of everyday experience, whereas nonsensory information, in modern societies generally repressed, comes to light
mainly in the form of intuitions, images, archetypes, and the seemingly anomalous contents of altered-state experience.
He goes on to state that
The altered-state interconnection of human consciousness with the world at large is of crucial importance for our times (atheists take note). It
exhibits a fact that both mainstream science and mainstream public opinion has long disregarded; that our mind is spontaneously linked with other
minds, and even with the cosmos as a whole.
On evolution, consciousness, and God
Evolution, we should note, realizes a twofold potential in the cosmos; a physical potential for the progressive, although intermittent and non-linear,
complexification of manifest entitites; and a mental potential for the intermittent yet progressive evolution of consciousness. These potentials were
encoded in the primordial virtual-energy domain. In the maximum concept that domain constitutes [b]the primordial nature of God.
Upon the termination of the evolutionary process - following the "evaporation" of the last remnants of supergalactic structures in the space and
time of the last universe - the potentials encoded in the primordial virtual domain achieve final realzation. For the maximum concept the completely
in-formed virtual-energy domain constitutes the consequent nature of God.
You tell us what we think and believe. You are wrong. 
