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DHS strips Arizona sheriff of authority to patrol for illegal immigrants

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posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 08:43 PM
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a jack booted Nazi that should be stripped of power.

INS should handle all immigration issues with local government officials role being that of support.




posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 08:44 PM
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Okay folks, we have blown this completely out of proportion. It is painfully obvious that DHS does not have the resources to handle the flux of illegal immigration cases in Maricopa County. As most news stories have a sensational edge, the one in question is clearly working is way to a defamation suit. The reporter must have either been intoxicated or upset about the last speeding ticket received. The federal agency, "ICE," is responsible for the deportation of illegal immigrants and obviously is not well funded in Arizona or anywhere else. It is also painfully obvious the government had been on the get rich scheme of cheap labor for years which furthers the communist agenda of demoralizing America to support future socialistic expansion. Sheriff Joe is a wise player in the game and is keen to the central planner agenda which threatens the people of his county. Let the record show this skirmish between DHS and Sheriff Joe is still in the preliminary stages to which both sides have not used up all their ammo just yet. Sheriff Joe is strong and will not bow down to any outside entity holding office which would attempt to violate the rights of the citizens in Maricopa County. Being sworn to enforce the constitution of the United States including the president, this news story seems overly defamatory and not representing both sides of the fence appropriately. Lets not for get about the 9th amendment coming before the 10th amendment (The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people). So let’s say the 10th amendment police powers act is retained by the people of Maricopa County, thus voiding any central planning agenda concerning immigration within the limits of Maricopa County.

Saying illegal immigrants take the jobs that no one else will do only furthers the human rights abuses against our very own children who have not seen job one. To teach school children that certain jobs are only good enough for a certain strata willing to work it is a race crime against Hispanics to suggest they would never want to better themselves in a higher occupation. Attempting to deceive Americans with this jobs that no one wants comment only encourages our children to believe they are better than everyone else in the world, which is a lie.

If everyone wants to complain about prison culture getting worse, those prisoners may as well be labeled as the people who refused to accept the work available as they where taught certain jobs where not for them when they where children. The very generation we are breeding now is a culture addicted to convenience which would sacrifice their own children like Satanist, only to further an easy gain agenda which in reality will not last. So who’s the bigger criminal here, Those addicted to making money by cheap labor and overpriced commodity or the children who believed that greedy lie would work for them which only gave them a life of addictions and worthless behavior. So as this administrative battle rages on, please remember your investments are as good as your children. By our works we are judged. Sheriff Joe is only performing his calling and doing so, with the graces of his people. This will not be abridged.

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posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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thats the thing they aren't taking jobs that Americans wont do they are taking jobs that Americans rely on ... i mean when i was a kid i worked for a contractor and over the years learned a trade that allowed me to start my own business ... young kids need these opportunities ... not people who hopped the border to send money back to their families (however noble that is)

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posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Answer the question, how do you patrol for illegal immigrants?
as far as i'm concerned patrolling for illegal immigrants by definition equates to racial profiling.


So let me get this right...a tall, white male robs a street vendor and you call it racial profiling to question tall, white men? There is no such thing as "racial" profiling, but there is "criminal" profiling. And to the best of my knowledge, it works quite well. Sometimes you question people based upon where they are, sometimes by what they are doing and sometimes by how they look. If a black man robs somebody, you question black men...not white, not Asian, and not Spanish.

Its not BECAUSE of what race they are, but because they match the race of the criminal. Stop playing the race card...everyone is sick of it.

[edit on 10/7/2009 by WeAreAWAKE]



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 09:43 PM
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If we stopped paying taxes like the illegals then they would no longer have subsidized housing, food stamps, or free medical care.

40% of federal prisoners are illegals. It costs at least $15,000 yearly to support those prisoners via taxation. Every family of four illegals receives an average of $30,000 yearly in benefits and only contributes an average of $8,000 back in taxes, unless they are paid under the table, then no return.

If we continue to allow the open border policies of this administration we will eventually be in such dire economic collapse that the illegals will no longer want to come to the US, which will be the only positive result.

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posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 09:50 PM
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Arizona actually has a law saying illegals can be arrested for trespassing. It is the job of the sheriff to enforce the state and local laws.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a jack booted Nazi that should be stripped of power.
INS should handle all immigration issues with local government officials role being that of support.


Yeah...but they won't because the politicians don't want to loose the votes, or the votes of non-illegal immigrants that don't want their friends and family sent home. And yes...being here illegally means you have already broken the law. For some people, it may make more sense if you not view it as "immigration" and instead view it as an invasion of people stealing things (money, benefits, jobs, etc.) from legal Americans and squatting in our homes.

Why anyone stands for this, or allows their representatives stand for this is stupidity...IMO.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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reply to post by Aggie Man
 


Can you provide some pictures of federal police patrolling highways that are partially federally-funded?



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 10:09 PM
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I really don't get it. What's wrong with local police enforcing a federal law? At least nothing in principle. It's only reciprocal: the Fed says MJ is illegal in CA and tries to enforce same. Whatever.

Whoever kicks out illegals out of this country has my respect.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 10:15 PM
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I seriously doubt that if immigrants were white this a hole sheriff would deport them. If immigrants were red hair irish, scotish, or Australian, or white south african i am SURE they would get "processed" differently than the mexican counter part. That is if they even get recognized or profiled as illegal. I look mexican next to a some white german tourist, I know I would be singled out, and this is the truth



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a jack booted Nazi that should be stripped of power.

INS should handle all immigration issues with local government officials role being that of support.


INS isn't doing the job. Would you prefer to leave things as they are just so the cop you dislike isn't doing something?

I'd like all the bleeding heart liberals who love the poor illegal aliens so much to explain to me why the current system is better than strictly enforcing legal immigration where immigrants with dangerous diseases and criminal histories can be kept out?

Do any of you have the slightest clue how much crime is committed by illegal aliens?

We had a bit of a drama here in Houston recently. In rather short order a number of men arrested for violent crimes were found to have all been recently released to ICE for deportation. It turns out that ICE let all of them walk free. No detention, no deportation, nothing.

ICE was given 1.9 billion dollars to increase the number of beds for prisoners this past year. They claim they still don't have enough money. Do you have any idea how many state prisoners can be housed for 1.9 billion?

Anyway, back to these poor, downtrodden illegals. One of them had been arrested 8 times in Houston, the most recent for beating his live in girlfriend and her baby. ICE let him walk and within a week's time his gf's body was found with over a dozen stab wounds. He wrote messages on her body to the police and ICE with the knife and left the bloody knife in the babies crib (with the baby) who was alone with its dead mother for days before her body was found.

Another glowing example would be the sex offender ICE failed to deport who raped and sodomized a 7 year old girl. Despite giving her syphilis he claimed she was lying because she didn't like being "punished". He'd been through the jail and INS system many, many times.

Close to 500 Houston jail inmates are found to be repeat offender, illegal aliens previously sent for deportation every month and that with only a few being checked for immigration status. ICE has allowed countless pedophiles, rapists and even murderers to walk free due to lack of "bed space". Why these people aren't sent to US prisons and then deported was a bit of a mystery to me until I found out its the federal government policy to deport criminals immediately. Too bad most of them aren't being deported at all. Then again, the few who are deported just come right back over the border. Again and again and again.

Houston isn't even a border city. Can you imagine how bad this issue is in a place like Arizona?

Source - Houston Chronicle News

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posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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The race card issue has to end. Illegal immigrants of any color or creed need to be deported. they are a blight on society. youth employment in the untied states is at an all time low plus illegals do not pay taxes or register for the draft. they leech on society and they have to be stopped. if latinos are the most of the illegal immigrants in the united states should LEO's and ICE not look for them? in my opinion 2 things need to happen the legal latinos need to be proud enough to be an american to say hey let them go through the correct process and be a citizen like me and drop the race card issue and secondly people who are to lazy to build a deck for themselves need to stop supporting illegals and learn to do things the hard way.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 10:38 PM
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Last I checked, we don't have 15, or so million illegal Europeans, Australians or S. Africans in the US. We do have around that many illegal Hispanics, however.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by ShiftTrio
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LOL come to AZ, and you will see my friend, it IS racial profiling , they ARE stopping people for just being Mexican. In fact they hang out in the heavy populated Mexican area of Guadalupe, and pull over EVEYONE who looks Mexican, in fact I drove through there and got pulled over because I had my bandanna on, I guess I looked a little Mexican, though I am Italian and Irish. As soon as they saw my last name was not Mexican and looked closer at me, I was let go with a warning about dressing like that and driving through there.

Bottom line they are profiling. No the question for debate is, whether you think profiling is good or bad, IF it catches criminals. The problem is it is a slippery slope and a violation of what our bill of rights stands for. Remember when the framers wrote this, there was no such thing as illegal immigration, everyone was welcome.


Lived in Arizona for 4 years.

I stand by my previous post.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by ANNED
Just go to any police impound Auction in Calif and many have papers in the cars in Spanish and/or bumper stickers with like Mexican flags or other things that show that they were taken from a Latinos.




Thats a pretty bland statement to say. I'm Hispanic and I have a Mexican flag on my car. Does that make me illegal?

On that note, I am also not against deporting illegals when caught. They are here taking a job that I am trying to get, and they get if for cheaper. I don't agree on racial profiling. And if it continues, why stop at just profiling mexicans, and not other races?

just my 2 cents.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by Phlegmi
Its simple, he is acting outside of his jurisdiction. Its not his job to check for immigration status of someone that hasn't committed a crime, if he was to setup road checks to check who is an undocumented alien I bet everyone would love that right?


heres a little hint. the crime is that they are illegal immigrants.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 11:29 PM
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Actually, the Federal Government is not overstepping their authority. The sheriff is conducting illegal search and seizures, based on apparent country of origin. That means he is stopping and searching anyone who looks like he might be Mexican - which would include a whole lot of legitimate American citizens. This is illegal. It is a violation of our Fourth Amendment.

While it may be true (and it may *NOT* be true) that non-citizens may not be protected by the Fourth Amendment, the problem is that until you've stopped someone and searched them, you don't know whether they are a citizen or not. This is what makes it illegal. If you arrest someone for breaking the law, and *then* search them and find out they're not a citizen, that's fine. It's not illegal or unreasonable.

But what the sheriff is doing violates the Constitution.

[Edit: Here's the Fourth Amendment]

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


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posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:19 AM
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To ALL posters of this thread that believe Joe is in the wrong...
Send me your addresses in a u2u and I will send some people over to your place to live with you since you don't mind having them. Be sure you feed them, buy their heath insurance and give them free money. Be sure to take out adoption papers so they can become part of your family. I'll make sure to send a variety of ethnicities so I won't be accused of racial profiling.
THANK YOU

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posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:42 AM
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Go Sheriff Joe!!!!!!

A true American hero.

Kick out the illegal aliens, deport, deport, deport!!!!

I have dark skin, my parents were immigrants, they had to speak English and have a sponsor and have a job waiting, and they DIDN'T cut in line.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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Why is this thread this long and no one is advocating that Joe go after say...the employers of illegal immigrants? They would not be coming here if there was no opportunity to earn a living. Drug suppliers get punished more harshly than users because they provide a reason for many people to use. Why are we not up in arms over the people supplying jobs? I have had to prove who I am for every job I have ever had.




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