DHS strips Arizona sheriff of authority to patrol for illegal immigrants, page 3
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reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 02:48 PM by ShiftTrio
reply to post by jd140



LOL come to AZ, and you will see my friend, it IS racial profiling , they ARE stopping people for just being Mexican. In fact they hang out in the heavy populated Mexican area of Guadalupe, and pull over EVEYONE who looks Mexican, in fact I drove through there and got pulled over because I had my bandanna on, I guess I looked a little Mexican, though I am Italian and Irish. As soon as they saw my last name was not Mexican and looked closer at me, I was let go with a warning about dressing like that and driving through there.

Bottom line they are profiling. No the question for debate is, whether you think profiling is good or bad, IF it catches criminals. The problem is it is a slippery slope and a violation of what our bill of rights stands for. Remember when the framers wrote this, there was no such thing as illegal immigration, everyone was welcome.


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 02:51 PM by Erasurehead
Originally posted by verylowfrequency
reply to
post by centurion1211



Sheriff Joe Arpaio belongs in an intensive management unit in a Federal Penitentiary for his crimes against humanity. I say lock the leftover fat stupid ugly NAZI Pig up and use him for medical research. I know when he dies we will all hear hallelujah vibrating in the wind and people will come from all over the world just to urinate on his grave.


[edit on 7-10-2009 by verylowfrequency]


Sounds like someone is a little angry with the sheriff. What were you arrested by him?

What are these crimes against humanity that you speak of?
The guy has been reelected as Sheriff 5 times! He has the support of the public that he serves. You don't like him because he is tough on criminals?

In 1992 Arpaio successfully campaigned to become the Sheriff of Maricopa County. Since then he has been reelected to an unprecedented five 4-year terms. During his tenure as Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arpaio has consistently earned extraordinarily high public approval ratings.

www.mcso.org...


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 02:56 PM by ModernAcademia
Anyone under the false impression that this is a good guy... go here:

stoparpaio.org...

Scour that website, read everything and then tell me he's a good guy

This guy belongs in Guantanamo Bay!!!!


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 02:57 PM by mahtoosacks
i think that if you cant speak english then you should be sent back wherever you came from, but thats me.

i understand that we have no official language, but still, thats my opinion.

profiling is bad, but how do you arrest illegal latinos, without questioning latinos?

seems pretty silly to need to question white and blacks who are obviously from here to make it "fair" to arrest latinos here illegally. but i guess thats just common sense.

i have no problem with latinos at all. i have plenty of friends. guess what, they arent criminals for being here either. theres a process. i dont expect to be able to just walk into mexico and not show any papers or anything, and if i did, i would probably end up in prison there. its to be expected.

why do so many people have a problem with arresting criminals.

and yes if you broke the law to be here, what says you wont break more laws.

just think for a minute alllll the laws that are probably broken JUST to be here illegally.

forgery of federal documents
not paying taxes (which reminds me, the 15th is coming up quick)
working without proper documentation
driving without a license (or the ability to read our signs)

now we have 5 laws broken, all federal (not sure if driving without a license is, dont think it is, but anyways, you get the point).

now how can you rightly justify that these people have rights to be here, and not be harassed.

if someone broke into your house, and stole your money and belongings, wouldnt you want them punished?

tell me what the difference is, if you even can.

ooo right, the debate isnt over that....

its about some redneck cop profiling people right? how do you arrest illegals without arresting people who look like illegals.

do you who support this even think about it?

and dont give me the crap about how they are people too, they are criminals first. trust me, being a criminal isnt fun, even when its something simple like having weed on you or speeding. why shouldnt they get to enjoy that feeling like so many americans already do?


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 03:02 PM by titorite
reply to post by ModernAcademia



On that note hear is another website about the guy LINK HERE

It's all about the truth of Arpaio...

FACT He never Arrested Elvis!


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 03:17 PM by verylowfrequency
reply to post by Erasurehead



I've read enough about him to know that he does more harm than good in this world. Having been tortured to near death myself by these types of NAZI's I suppose I do have reason to dislike them.

There are lots of bad politicians that get reelected for allot of reasons many of which are illusions and in his case he's popular with taxpayers for the illusion of saving money and being hard on criminals besides the fact that most people vote for who they know to keep the status quo. I don't live there so I'm not caught up in his celebrity, so my perspective is different.



reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 03:22 PM by mahtoosacks
Originally posted by titorite
reply to
post by ModernAcademia



On that note hear is another website about the guy LINK HERE

It's all about the truth of Arpaio...

FACT He never Arrested Elvis!


thats true, AND i guess he killed a mentally-challenged man.

guess that means tough.....


the basis for arresting illegals still stands, even though this guys isnt the award winning sheriff. btw, know of any other sheriffs that dont talk bs like this guy?

my dollar is on no...


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 03:23 PM by marg6043
reply to post by mrsdudara



That doesn't sound right and I guess you noticed too, the Sheriff is elected by the people of the town or city, so actually the federal government doesn't have any control to what the Sheriff does.

So something doesn't sound right here.


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 03:43 PM by jam321
reply to post by digger2381



Whether they are stopped for murder or failure to signal a lane change is irrelevant. If they're illegal, they are criminals. Send them back to their homeland.


I have no problem with the deportation issue. My issue is in the manner in which they seek them out.

Both situations have happened on multiple occasions and I was released. Had I been illegal, I would have been taken in.


Does not having your driver license make you illegal? Does not speaking English make you illegal? At what point during a stop is there evidence where somebody is legal or not?

Like I said, as long as it is Hispanics being targeted, it is no problem. But what if the sheriff were stopping white folks for probable cause that a crime was committed in hope of finding drugs?

Do you think whites would be happy they are being targeted as a whole because of a few white people who do have drugs?

I will say this people are right when they say the Fed isn't doing their job when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration. IMO, the issue has to be dealt with one way or the other.


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 04:49 PM by tatersalad
reply to post by BaronVonGodzilla



you have got to be kidding me godzilla? this man has done his job, he has fought to do the deeds of the American tax payer, bro are you some kind of fascist????? holy cow can you say the only police force soon that will have any ligitamacy will be THE AMERICAN PRIVATE POLICE, holy shizzle i need a drink!


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 04:52 PM by marg6043
reply to post by merkaba93



Exactly is to the voters on his town to decide who gets elected obviously he is good enough for the people in the area of his voting district.

It makes me wonder then why people that are not from his voting area complaining about him, after all none of us have voting power to complain anyway.


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 04:57 PM by Aggie Man
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to
post by merkaba93



Exactly is to the voters on his town to decide who gets elected obviously he is good enough for the people in the area of his voting district.

It makes me wonder then why people that are not from his voting area complaining about him, after all none of us have voting power to complain anyway.


The people IN his area might like him, but that doesn't speak for all the people that DRIVE THROUGH his area. Last time I checked, Arizona's highways were federally funded; therefore, his authority can be "limited" by the federal government on Federal property.
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