Originally posted by Alethea
Here is what the scriptures have to say about "your kind".
Tell them not to spend their time on stories that are not true and on long lists of names in family histories. These things only bring
arguments; they do not help God's work, which is done in faith.1 Timothy 1:4
Yet, I seem to recall several long genealogies presented in the Bible. A good part of Genesis is devoted to such, and you can it in numerous other
books of both the Old Testament (too numerous to list) as well as the New Testament (Luke, Matthew, Mark, I Chronicles, Acts, Romans and Revelations
to be specific).
So, Timothy's advice to not spend time on long lists of names in family histories only pertains if you aren't Christian or is there something
hypocritical here in what you have quoted?
Originally posted by Alethea
The reason your 'special bloodline' does not own deeds and property is probably because they are supported by the Illuminati upline. Sounds a bit
like the tribe of the Leviathan.
Actually, more like the Tribe of Benjamin if there would be a Biblical parallel. They were the Tribe chosen by God to lead Israel. During the war with
the Armekalites (or Armelites, or some other such Semitic tribe) the people of Israel got bloodlust and called for every Armekalite man, woman and
child to be slaughtered the Tribe of Benjamin intervened and defended the enemy from slaughter. For that act, the Israelites cast the Tribe of
Benjamin out and thenceforth condemned any Benjamite woman found to be with child to be stoned to death and any Benjamite man to be killed on sight,
and placed their own chosen Tribe, the Tribe of Judah, to lead Israel instead.
To anyone but the ancient Israelites, the Tribe of Benjamin were noble in deed and in heart. They stood by their ideals, even unto the threat of
death, and even unto usurpation and banishment.
Originally posted by Alethea
I went back and read some of your posts.
I notice you congratulate the secret societies for "all the good work" they do.
Jesus said to let your good works be done in secret and not for the public applause of man. Seems some of these groups got it backwards. But then,
sometimes people blow their horn loudly to point to their good works in order to cover up the evil they do in secret. They think it will keep them
above suspicion.
I also noticed that you uphold the rights of the Scientology cult ( which, incidentally, was born out of mind control research at Stanford) to
continue these evil techniques on people. Many of these religious cults have caused much psychological harm to people as well as pursuing individuals
with threats and harassment once they leave the evil clutches of the group.
Assuming that not-so-secret societies such as the Accepted, Free and Antient Freemasons do happen to be Illuminati and as such, do have ulterior
motives as you are insinuating...
Is doing good for ulterior motives worse than doing ill for clearly selfish motives?
Should no good deed go unpunished?
If a person or a group of individuals do something for the betterment of many people, even if they do wrong in their hearts, then it is all the more
important that their selfless acts be praised so that they may be given the incentive to turn away from the wrong that may be in their hearts!
If I praise even the Illuminutty for those things that they do that may be good, then I feel no shame in that. I still reserve the right to rebuke
them, assuming they survived the 17th century, for any wrong-doing which they do.
If I defend Freemasonic groups I do so because I feel they have been unjustly discriminated against. I would be just as quick to rebuke a Freemason
for wrongdoing as I would be towards anyone else.
Also, for the record, the only Fraternal Organization any of my family has ever had any affiliation with throughout all of time, Secret or otherwise,
is the Fraternal Order of the Eagles. My parents and grandparents sure liked to bowl.
As for Scientology, I share your contempt of Scientology and have no disagreement with you there. However, I do not allow my personal contempt for
their beliefs to outweigh their rights to those beliefs. I would defend both Scientologist and Christian alike for their right to chose to practice
their religious beliefs so long as it does not hurt another. I'll be the first in line to criticize Scientology, but I'll also be the first one in
line to defend their Constitutional Rights, just as I would be for any other religion, even when it is not mine.
Originally posted by Alethea
True justice requires a spiritual knowledge that can only be evidenced by appreciation and pursuit of truth. I don't see this coming from you.
You are correct. You will not see a Christian agenda from me. I stand with Gandhi on my view of Christianity. I might find some truth in the Christian
writings, and I may have liked to have met your Yeheshua Bar Yosef (Joshua/Jesus), but other than a few select examples (like St. Francis, St. John of
the Cross, Teresa of Avila, Mother Theresa) I do not have a lot of respect for Christians themselves who talk and walk a path very different than what
their religion supposedly stands for on paper.
I have much spiritual knowledge from having studied many religions (yes, including Christianity, from non-denominational, Protestant, Catholic and
Eastern Orthodox forms of Christianity along with Mystical Christianity), both extant religions and dead religions, along with following the spiritual
practices of Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, and Plotinus, and walking the path of the Hermetic texts that the Christian Patriarchs so revered that they
considered on multiple occasions replacing the New Testament with them. However, since my personal spiritual beliefs do not derive from the New
Testament Scriptures alone, then I doubt that anything I would ever have to say to the closed-minded would ever amount to being anything more than
casting pearls before swine.
Still, I recognize your right to your own opinion, your right to your own religious beliefs without persecution, and will defend you just as I would
defend anyone else to have those same rights. I will not cast stones at you, nor will I let another cast stones at you, but you can be sure that I
will be there if ever you cast stones at others...and that should be a truth you can both appreciate and find evidence to in all that I do (and have
written here on ATS).
POSTSCRIPT:
Originally posted by Alethea
"Secret Birthright"??!!
What arrogance!
If you had read so many of my previous posts on other threads, then you should have known my sublime tongue-in-cheek references, and gotten the
satirical joke embedded in the title of this thread. *SIGH*
One man's humor is the arrogance of another I suppose.
But thank you for taking the time to criticize what you misunderstand rather than actually answering the questions which I posed in the OP.
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