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reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 11:04 AM by Mak Manto
Originally posted by dooper
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You DO realize that Hizballah is Arab, don't you?

Second line.

Hezbollah is not only to Arabs. It's a Shia Islam political and military party.

Though, once again, Iranians are not Arab's. They're Persians.

There is a difference, you know?


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 11:42 AM by dooper
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Let's do this one more time as you are apparently so easily confused.

Iran (Persians) are supplying any weapons that they can carry to Hizballah, specifically in Lebanon (Arabs.)

Nukes produced by Iran (Persian) would likely be handed off to Hizballah (Primarily Arab Hizballah) or Hamas (Arab) so that the US or Israel can be hit and no one can say that Iran (Persians) did it themselves, giving them plausible deniability.

I just as soon see Iran receive the nukes they seem so badly to desire.


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 11:50 AM by Rook1545
Originally posted by dooper
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Let's do this one more time as you are apparently so easily confused.

Iran (Persians) are supplying any weapons that they can carry to Hizballah, specifically in Lebanon (Arabs.)

Nukes produced by Iran (Persian) would likely be handed off to Hizballah (Primarily Arab Hizballah) or Hamas (Arab) so that the US or Israel can be hit and no one can say that Iran (Persians) did it themselves, giving them plausible deniability.

I just as soon see Iran receive the nukes they seem so badly to desire.


Can you back ANY of this up? Or is just complete utter BS passed off as bad conjecture?

Honestly, this is getting out of control. You make all these grandiose claims that have absolutely no backing.

Calling for the nuking of Iran? That is just sick. The only difference between you and the people you seem to hate so much is location.


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 12:08 PM by dooper
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Which part are you having trouble with?

That Iran is supplying Hizballah with weapons?

That Iran is supplying the Taliban in Afghanistan?

That Iran supplies various groups in Iraq?

Or is it the concept of "passing over" more advanced weapons whereby one is able to use "agents of purpose" to facilitate their own desires?

Or is the concept of "plausible denial" giving you trouble?

Now most folks, if they consider another country the "Great Satan" would most likey be the recipient of any mass destruction weapons they could generate.

Since they don't want to be destroyed in retaliation, they don't launch from inside their country. They would find a group that shares their identical desire to strike this particular nation or people, and pass it off to them.

The job gets done, their hands are clean, and they can always say they know nothing about it.

You're really not that dumb.

Are you?


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 01:56 PM by Mak Manto
Originally posted by dooper
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post by Mak Manto


Let's do this one more time as you are apparently so easily confused.

Iran (Persians) are supplying any weapons that they can carry to Hizballah, specifically in Lebanon (Arabs.)

Nukes produced by Iran (Persian) would likely be handed off to Hizballah (Primarily Arab Hizballah) or Hamas (Arab) so that the US or Israel can be hit and no one can say that Iran (Persians) did it themselves, giving them plausible deniability.

I just as soon see Iran receive the nukes they seem so badly to desire.

Hamas is not Arab!

Dear Lord, they're Palestinian!

You don't understand the entire culture, ethnicity, creeds, and beliefs of the people, do you?

As is Lebanon is not Arab! The people are Lebanese!



reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 02:51 PM by Rook1545
Originally posted by dooper
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Which part are you having trouble with?

That Iran is supplying Hizballah with weapons?

That Iran is supplying the Taliban in Afghanistan?

That Iran supplies various groups in Iraq?

Or is it the concept of "passing over" more advanced weapons whereby one is able to use "agents of purpose" to facilitate their own desires?

Or is the concept of "plausible denial" giving you trouble?

Now most folks, if they consider another country the "Great Satan" would most likey be the recipient of any mass destruction weapons they could generate.

Since they don't want to be destroyed in retaliation, they don't launch from inside their country. They would find a group that shares their identical desire to strike this particular nation or people, and pass it off to them.

The job gets done, their hands are clean, and they can always say they know nothing about it.

You're really not that dumb.

Are you?


Maybe it is I who should be asking if you are dumb. Re-read what I said. I asked if you can back it up. As in give proof. You haven't. You have offered up nothing but opinion and conjecture. PROVE THAT THEY ARE DOING THIS. PROVE THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT HAS DONE ANY OF WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING!

Plausible deniabilty is an American concept, used for years in all conflicts. You seem to spout off these little notions about the "bad muslims" yet you can't offer any kind of proof for what you are saying.

Maybe we should start holding the American government and the people in the US responsible for any arms dealer from the US selling weapons.


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 03:05 PM by dooper
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Oh.

You are.

Every read any current events? Ever watch any news?

Ever see any international reports on what's being found weapon-wise, and where it comes from.

I'm not doing your homework.

If you're ignorant of something, that's your problem.

Not mine.

The truth is right out there.

Just go get it.


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 03:08 PM by dooper
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Between 20% and 30% of Lebanese are in fact Arab, Arab in Lebanon is spoken, and Arab is written.

Not to say they can't speak Lebanese - but their culture is significantly dominated by Arab influence through blood, language, writing, and religion.

Get it?


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 04:11 PM by Kram09
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All i can say is, thank god you're not the one making the important decisions.

We'd all be going to hell in a hand basket.



reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 04:53 PM by Mak Manto
Originally posted by dooper
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Between 20% and 30% of Lebanese are in fact Arab, Arab in Lebanon is spoken, and Arab is written.

Not to say they can't speak Lebanese - but their culture is significantly dominated by Arab influence through blood, language, writing, and religion.

Get it?


Just because Arab is spoken and written doesn't make the country Arab.

People of Lebanon are Lebanese. People in Hamas are Palestinian.

Learn this, Dooper, if you ever wish to further yourself with knowledge.

Not all people in the Middle East are Arab!


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 05:49 PM by dooper
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Dear God, you're dense.

I said 20% to 30% of the population are Arab.

As in blood.

Now you can actually learn something here if you'll just do a tiny bit of digging. Do a bit of research.

The statistics for Lebanon indicate a 20%-30% Arab origin.

BLOOD ARABS.

20%-30%.

Can you understand the words that are typed in sequence?


reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 05:53 PM by dooper
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If I were making the decisions, I'd be making those decisions based on principles that have not failed the first time in conflict since 1479 BC.

That's how you know you're doing it right.

In fact, most of these little problems would never even come up if I were making the decisions.

And when they did come up, they'd be addressed that very same day while they were little problems, rather than let them grow to become big problems.

Hesitation is ruin.
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