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Originally posted by clandestiny
Hydrous ethanol can and is actually a useful fuel that can be produced at a competitive price. But it doesn't cause the harmful emissions, much of which are needed to keep the quality of air we breath toxic so the house of cards the economy is built on using its favored source of free money (I call the bloodlines "the people that love free money"), sales of medical related products and services, health insurance, the whole shebang.
Ethanol is not as toxic as MTBE. Well, with either one, the longer we are exposed to it, the more sensitive we become. MTBE had been making them a lot of money for a long time. They got in way over their heads with debts that were based on future projections that it would keep making people sick. Really though, most of the people making the money from MTBE making people sick had no idea what MTBE was. But they are all fighting like hell now to keep ethanol on the market, which it making less people sick but still doing it.
They want to get back to using 15% oxygenates like they did with MTBE so they can get their plan back on course and get paid in the way they are accustomed to, which, well,,, really they made a killing off the economy collapsing. But if they don’t win this game, they won’t get to keep it. And they won’t be living very happy lives with the rest of the human race knowing what they did.
like you didn't know you would have at least one ear.
Wow, sorry for the lag, I didn’t know if anyone would want to hear this story or not. I know now that at least some of you will stick around to hear it all while some of you will not come back, until you start to hear about it everywhere you turn, then you will wish you had not left. As long as I know I have at least one ear, then I will focus my efforts on this thread as it appears to be the most productive project I having going on right now.
We're changing the algae's gene structure to get them to produce hydrocarbons similar to those that come out of the ground and to trick them into pumping these hydrocarbons out instead of accumulating them. As other groups get CO2 sequestration techniques going, we'd like to take that CO2 and get the algae to convert it back into oil.
Originally posted by Mindmelding
People should realise that ethanol is the single biggest threat to the NWO power structure at the moment, because if the people of the world break the energy monopoly technology embargo, the structure the psychpathocracy has tried so hard to build will fold. Ethanol can do this, because it's a universal fuel. It can be obtained from plants almost everywhere and can be run by the vast majority of internal combustion engines with minimal modifications.
The cash for clunkers scheme and it's european equivalents, are, imo, an attempt to make easily convertable cars scarcer, replacing them with more modern and restrictive technology and an abundance of aluminum parts, which are corroded by ethanol. Ethanol is a HUGE threat to the world elite, Brazil has already provided proof of concept, as did the USA before prohibition, which was bankrolled by old man Rockeffeler funding women movements against alcohol because they disliked their men intoxicated while, at the same time, he was promoting his snake oil, which is oil, as auto fuel. The first cars ran on ethanol.
I am VERY skeptical of people bashing ethanol, it's a very clean emission fuel, and everything it does emit it will reabsorb in the next growth cycle, it's a renewable.
I'm still reading, but I'm still smelling manure from the OP, although I do admit there's probably a lot of bad additives out there. Heck, there's plenty in the water, let alone the fuel...
Again, if I'm wrong I would apologise.
[edit on 6-10-2009 by Mindmelding]
Originally posted by Phlynx
Originally posted by clandestiny
MTBE and ethanol can act as fuels, of course. But even in engines designed for gasoline, that have been being engineered for that purpose for over a hundred years, are still only around 20 percent efficient, meaning we waste 80 percent of the potential power in gasoline.
MTBE and ethanol (anhydrous ethanol) need high compression ratios to combust. Most engines these days have low compressions and have never been ported so even gasoline won't burn efficiently in them Gasoline and MTBE/ethanol are called oxygenates and are totally different than gasoline. Its like the difference between diesel and gasoline, you can't just run them in engines they are not designed to run in.
But really oxygenates were designed not to burn so as to cause excessive levels of volatile organic compounds to mix with nitrogen oxides smog causing a photochemical reaction in the suns rays that got rid of the smog while making air quality worse for the environment and our health. This not only helped set the stage for the end run to take over the world but made the same people doing it enough money to cover their plan through selling medical related products and services to all the people their oxygenates program was miking sick, all this while claiming oxygenates are good for air quality because as long as most people don't see pollution, they believe the air they were breathing is safer.
Do chem and con trails have anything to do with oxygenates?
What are the "bad guys" plans for Earth? Every bad person always has good intentions, and I want to know what there plans are.
What is your goal for Earth, if you are the other side, what is your goal, just to destroy them because you disagree?
If you don't have a plan, I WILL make a third team, because I have a plan. If this involves deaths on any side, I will make a third team.
Not that I believe any of this, because I simply don't have any proof.
Originally posted by Freenrgy2
Originally posted by clandestiny
Mother Nature would have to join God in punishing us because some young couple ate an apple at the beginning of time or we wouldn’t have believed the apocalypse was heaven sent.
As far as the above quote, I have a problem with it. We don't know what the fruit is. It has always been assumed to be an apple, but that isn't what is written in the Word. And, I figure a decendent of Jesus Christ would know this.
Originally posted by clandestiny
Rain in drought regions, or desert, is a trigger to causing plate movement.
The dollar started sinking to where it is now in the spring of 2006 just as the switch to ethanol was being made. Also the price of oil was being falsely inflated through oil futures speculating at the same time because anhydrous ethanol can't compete against cheap oil.
Hydrous ethanol can and is actually a useful fuel that can be produced at a competitive price. But it doesn't cause the harmful emissions, much of which are needed to keep the quality of air we breath toxic so the house of cards the economy is built on using its favored source of free money (I call the bloodlines "the people that love free money"), sales of medical related products and services, health insurance, the whole shebang.
What Obama is trying to do now is prepare the medical system for a collapse when our air quality is restored to normal and we go back to our old rates of illness, well,, really much lesser rates. In order to keep the system afloat until it adjusts, the government will have to be able to pay for it while it will need as many patients as possible to try and keep our medical personal trained. So he wants to make sure people who can’t afford it can still get treatment. We are being poisoned from many direction but not enough to keep the medical bubble from busting, nor the financial community that relies on it from caving in.
Ethanol is not as toxic as MTBE. Well, with either one, the longer we are exposed to it, the more sensitive we become. MTBE had been making them a lot of money for a long time. They got in way over their heads with debts that were based on future projections that it would keep making people sick. Really though, most of the people making the money from MTBE making people sick had no idea what MTBE was. But they are all fighting like hell now to keep ethanol on the market, which it making less people sick but still doing it.
They want to get back to using 15% oxygenates like they did with MTBE so they can get their plan back on course and get paid in the way they are accustomed to, which, well,,, really they made a killing off the economy collapsing. But if they don’t win this game, they won’t get to keep it. And they won’t be living very happy lives with the rest of the human race knowing what they did.
Originally posted by Mindmelding
reply to post by yobbi
Hey, I'm pro hemp too! That plant alone could solve our economical problems, although maybe not as far as our monetary problems, which are basically a black hole of debt.
Ethanol, Hemp, Tesla rods... Whatever works that is renewable is better than giving energy to the oligarchy and I'm flexible.