I was born into the "bloodlines" and went rogue

reply to post by EMPIRE

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I give up Empire, you tell me, can it or not? I'm swear I try to figure it out every time and get nothing. But I do admire you persistence

reply to post by ascalon

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Once again one of you academic orients have missed the whole point of why we are here and gotten it all wrong wrong wrong. This is called Gray Area Gray Area Gray Area. If I could propose my personal story in such a way that could withstand peer review, this thread would be in a whole other part of ATS. You guys stop be here on you way to your terribly boring and often unproductive threads to beat the hell out of us little guys for nothing more that pisses and giggles while missing the whole point of what we are trying to do here.

We have ideas, gut instincts, we do our cursory research, we find correlations, we write it up, then you are supposed to come through here looking for new perspectives to spice up you secret halls of debate with where only geniuses need apply. But see it isn’t that I am too stupid to pass your muster, it is just that I arrived at evidence of fact in a way that you guys never thought of, I just went right to it and grabbed it off the shelf. Now I guess you not only expect to not just walk in here and get me to show you where the store I got it as is, you want me to go down there for you, pick you out the one you want, gift wrap it, and pick up a few for your neighbors and in laws, all the while bowing in your presence. So the conversations goes not further until you learn the proper decorum for how you carry yourself in the Gray Area.

But then we all know you aren’t as smart as you make yourself out to be, unless you can introduce me to a Christian operating system vulnerable to a Y2K bug that knows that Jesus’ real birth date.

I Hello Clandestiny
I had asked you a few question earlier in this thread and I see you answered part so the remaining questions:

Are you familiar with the threads by

Hidden Hand: " A Window Of Opportunity"
A Window Of Opportuniry


Insider: "Revelations Of An Elite Family Insider"
Revelations Of An Elite Family Insider


Are you in the same category as these individuals?

How far back in history does this plan go?
Are familiar with the Star Families, Essene's?

If so, do these groups still exist, and are you part of this?

You Mentioned I believe "Hiram s Key" somewhere in this thread, have you by chance read "Solomon s Power Brokers" and how much credence do you place in the content of this book?

WHat exactly is meant when the term "Harvest" is used?

reply to post by Hack28

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Been following this thread out of morbid curiosity (no posts), then came upon your post. I'm with you on this. ATS is still a quality site, but sometimes, in the interest of being polite, some threads slip through that maybe should be assigned to a forum that wouldn't demand a high degree of validation. A lot of grief could have been avoided here had the OP been forced to change the thread title.

Star for you for calling it like you see it.

reply to post by clandestiny

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First let me say to all that we should remain unbiased and patient until Mr. C completes his point, however long that may be.

Second. Did I miss something? As far as my reality goes I am unaware of a Y2K 'virus'. I am aware of the Y2K money makin' hoax that any embedded systems programmer, such as myself, never worried about to begin with. Is this the Y2K 'virus' spoken of here? Enlighten me please.

Third. Now Mr. C... you must be aware of the fact that ALL the planets are allegedly warming up, not just our lovely planet Earth. The ethanol theory is interesting though. What do you have to say about a current shift towards 100% ethanol, made from corn, in the works as we speak? This would be a disaster of great proportions according to your latest utterances. Comments?????

Fourth. As stated earlier. Your writing skills are not what one would expect from someone of your claimed stature... no offense intended

However, in any case I am as they say "all ears".

reply to post by MysterE

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I seem to have missed the Jesus descendent thing... where was that statement hiding at anyway? I might have to give Mr. C a point or two for having a large talk time to actually saying something ratio. hahahaha

reply to post by clandestiny

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Would it be possible for you to tell all of us of your last incarnations or would you prefer to keep that hand hidden ?

I have a feeling you and I interacted on this site last year around this time.

I'll understand if you are too busy...

Deadlines and all.

As far as references towards your bloodline can you give us A Relevant Date.

That would be quite helpful.

reply to post by clandestiny

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"All truth passes through three stages: first, it is ridiculed; next it is violently attacked; finally, it is held to be self-evident." - Schopenhauer

Boy did you come to the wrong place for intelligent discussion! The people here are professional thread highjackers who turn what could be an interesting story into 37 pages of hate mail, personal attacks, and off-topic ramblings.

"It is the mark of an educated man to entertain an idea without accepting it." - Aristotle

Now I don't automatically believe what you've been saying, as that would make me a mindless repeater similar to those "intellectuals" you've had the misfourtune of meeting here. So, if I ever look into it myself I'll be a better judge of what to believe. Notice how at the center of everything we beLIEve is a lie? A good lesson for living in this world, I think.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." - Albert Einstein

So, I waded through all the attempted thread highjacking and read all your posts; interesting story to say the least. I know you have another thread which continues this discussion, but if you don't mind, I'd like to stay on topic with this post and ask a question which I did not see answered in any great detail so far.

You made mention several times of the New World Order being capped off with a new One World Religion. Could you elaborate at all on the aspects of that religion? Is it centered on the New Age Religion of the United Nations, and it's "interfaith" centers which try today to make all religions seem like different sides of the same coin? Would the focus of the religion be a living messiah (as hinted at in this thread), and/or a new definition of god? And would it be connected to "aliens" (real or false)?

The article at the link below reports on a study released Monday claiming that getting rid of the kinds of pollutants caused by ethanol and MTBE will prevent climate change problems for the next 40 years. It doesn't warn that these pollutants will cause problems for the future, it suggests they're causing problems now while CO2 is not a threat for 40 more years if we get rid of these pollutants. So that means the warming problems we are seeing now are caused by these pollutants, at least according to this study.

Actually, much as I hate to say it, OZ and his supporters are who I want to here from on this. So bring it, lets get it over with.

scrippsnews.ucsd.edu...

reply to post by clandestiny

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Hey Clandestiny, check this thread out. I'm curious as to what you think. Is it accurate, true, or a lie?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 07/16/2009 by Lichter daraus]

I guess we're about to find out if you're right, Bobby. Parts of California have gotten over 20 inches of rain in the past day. Where do you predict the earthquakes to come, given the rain distribution? Here's a couple of handy links...

US Precipitation
World Quakes

I personally can't wait to see what happens, and where. A "super typhoon" is a little suspicious to me...

Hmmmm, seems a little fishy to me...since only recently there was a story on cable television, about the rune stone found in Minnesota, credited to; Vikings, Templar's with Cistercian MONK connections. Since the monks were celibate to the church, and did not have relationships...I wonder how you could prove your lineage to both the Holy Order of Templar Knights and celibate Cistercian monks?

I can prove with documents; that my own lineage goes back to the 1400's and 1600's from both sides. My family name, crest's, history are registered in England,Germany,Netherlands,and France. Our family was connected to Royal houses only by employment, and the subsequent titles that accompanied it. ( Teamster-Coachman/ Seamstress-clothier/ Musician-instructor/ Mathematics Teacher/ Carpenter-Cabinet-Coffin maker/ Pastor/ Bookkeeper ) No claims to fame or fortune, or secret trysts in bed chambers! (but, you never know )

My great grandmother told us stories of how she would get hers as a 14 year old girl, behind the kitchen coal stove/oven at night, with a 16 year old cousin...pretty scandalous stuff today, but, not then. Not in the mid 1800's it wasn't. This would however, make the cousin a rogue!

I suspect this is what most of our real family histories are like...Not copulating monks in the vegetable gardens or amorous knights errant!

reply to post by sandralynn

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Get to know the related political issues as best you can.

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I am just descended from the same family line, as far as I know. If not, then someone went to a lot of trouble to make it look that way, which makes a lot of sense.

I might not be related at all. My father is CIA, I grew up in a program, everything about my background could be fictitious. I was being set up to be an impostor to Jesus so maybe they even went as far as to make it look like I am one of them where it can later be proven I am not so the real one looks legitimate when he or she surfaces. I was bred to play the role of the devil so anything is possible. I don't think my birth date is real. My middle named was changed when I was too young to remember clearly. I have been a pawn on these peoples game board all my life, even as I play back at them now. You are the same way, when you see how it the whole field maps out, you sill see it is all BS.

All I know is that I was many years into the game, had the board figured out including most every aspect of my roll on it. But one question was still lingering out there that I didn’t think I was good enough to figure out, that was how my last name could be linked to Jesus so I could be expected to successfully play the role of his pretender. I had pretty much figured it to have something to do with the Templar's, thought it was whoever the Priore of Sion was before they surfaced. But that didn't answer how I was going to be portrayed as Jesus if no one had heard of the name even if it was relevant because it had been a secret. I figured it was something that was planned on being surfaced when the time was right.

Then when reading a book on the Templar’s, I skimmed passed it pretending to myself I didn’t see it, St Bernard was referred to as St Bernard de Fontaine. Man that was a trip becasue he was who I would have thought would have been to perfect person for me to have been descended from, or one of his brothers or uncles, or whoever. I have only traced my lines back to a Jacque Fontaine who was said to be from the same lines as Bernard. But I don't know for sure I am his descendent either. I don't know how much is fabricated and how much is not.

I know it has to be set up so I can be used to represent different scenarios to suit whatever purpose my role takes on. It is supposed to be confusing and convoluted and impossible to prove without being able to lay it out methodically with all facts being connected from all angles and perspectives. That is why I push so hard in the direction of what is happening right now politically that can be proven. Once I get out in the open where I have 100% credibility, then the whole story can be totally fleshed out by people that are a whole lot better at these things than I am. Actually if I can get a scheduled out that is guaranteed, I can go to my father and pressure him to tell me everything he knows.

reply to post by clandestiny

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If you were a member of the Family, then in what field did you specialize? Dare I ask?

I believe he specialises in disinformation and hoxes

Sorry Bobby, couldnt resist

reply to post by OzWeatherman

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Hey, it's not often people claim to be from the Illuminati. We should suspend our disbelief a little longer before we call BS. Even if it is nonsense, it's still fun to listen to. I entertain every strange declaration I hear because sometimes they're true and what's the harm if they're crazy or lying? It has not effect on us one way or the other.

For anyone who is understanding what I saying here, you will find this article very interesting. Ask for details if you don't get it.

ictsd.net...-21723

reply to post by clandestiny

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Ever seen Eyes Wide Shut, by Kubrick?

reply to post by Syrus Magistus

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I was born, not hatched