Cheney / Palin in 2012: Dream Ticket : Half Nightmare and Half Fantasy

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas Wow OP, 'kin hilarious! Surely it'll never happen?
I'll tell y'all, I used to work in a chip shop (for Americans, thats a fast food place that sells french fries with @least twice the cross section of American ones, plus things like fish deep fried in batter, pies etc.) as a teen. The cooking operations mainly revolved around 2 large vats of very hot oil. My point is that I had to significantly increase my frequency of washing in order to stop the grease that condensed all over me from giving me serious pimplage...
Just imagine how much Palin would have to spend on hair & make-up standing next to that slimey tub of lard on the stump day after day! That'd take a corporate backer all of its own!

ya thats kind of scary and I kind of scared of OBAMA's agenda but Cheney really scares me if OBAMA is not the antichrist then it has to be Cheney I hear he pretty much ran the 1st half of Bush's term and didn't care about the people at all he just wanted to start wars not caring what the people wanted he might have set up 911 and Bush found out when they told him at the school he was at when the 1st plane hit maybe Bush had no idea but I want to read Cheney's new book coming out to see what he has to say about the BUSH Term.

Sarah Palin might be a good thing for Vice President I think she is a good person and wouldn't be evil like OBAMA if she ran I might vote for her I want a president for the people not for politics our country is in trouble we need help are country is in distress fly your flags upside down until we are saved.



If we need a new goverment that is much smaller than it is now its just got to big and to much power we know history repeats itself over and over again read a history book, We will be like the Old Roman Empire.

We need a real change not SOCIALISM.

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
It's just people calling you out on calling out Sarah Palin all the time while there are a number of people in the Democratic party that are equally corrupt.

Stop trying to hijack every thread you come across. If you want to expose corruption on either side, feel free to do it elsewhere. This thread is on the topic of two particular candidates from GOP, and your posts are off-topic.

This answers the question "What opposing ticket could be so bad as to give Obama a chance at a second term?".

Originally posted by buddhasystem
Stop trying to hijack every thread you come across. If you want to expose corruption on either side, feel free to do it elsewhere. This thread is on the topic of two particular candidates from GOP, and your posts are off-topic.

I disagree, I think he's very much on topic
This article has nothing to do with Palin or Cheney.
They could never win!

This article is solely about keeping the Dems in power by dividing the two parties even more and gaining some republicans and attracting all of them.

That's all that it is
Anyone that talks about Cheney or Palin is off-topic

I think Sarah had better wear a kevlar blouse, if she's going to be on that ticket.

Yeah, just an opinion piece to keep us talking. Hmm... it's working.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
This article is solely about keeping the Dems in power by dividing the two parties even more and gaining some republicans and attracting all of them.

There is not an iota of common sense in what you said. The GOP is hell bent on making the Dems fail without any regard to public good. What further division are you talking about?

reply to post by jd140

Nobody in their right mind would back any ticket with Cheney in it, Palin maybe, but never Cheney.

I guess it depends on which conservative faction rises to the top of the dog pile before last of the Republican presidential primaries. The Bush Administration dealt a pretty heavy blow to the Republican party and unseated the Religious Right just enough to make them vulnerable to dethronement as the majority voice for Conservatives. There's been a noticeable push to return the party to a more "Reaganized" ideal of what the party used to stand for.

While I am certainly no carrier for the banner of Reagan, I would very much welcome a return of THAT conservative party. While I had fundamental disagreements with many of their policies and ideology - I none-the-less felt that meaningful dialog could be established. They were respectable, and didn't reek of (possibly cancerous) utter "Bat-s*1+ Crazy" the way it has over the last ten or so years.

I don't see that happening if the fundamentalist Religious Right are allowed to insulate their position as the dominant conservative faction in the Republican party like they did going into 2000 & 2004.

I harbor far less admiration for Bush Sr. than I did for Reagan. However the stark contrast between Reason based vs. Faith based leadership marks a strong distinction between the presidencies of father and son. In essence, I think Bush Jr's tendency to favor "gut feelings" made him particularly gullible and easy to manipulate by others in his Administration. He appeared the inept and incompetent puppet on a string, a perception which was only reinforced by his seat-of-the-pants speeches and their foibles.

In this regard, Palin very much reminds me of Bush Jr. There's no way I could even consider supporting such a candidate. As for Cheney, I don't even know how he's still alive. I honestly didn't think his heart condition would have allowed him to last more than a year or two into the first term. I'm amazed, yet still no more confident in his continued health. If for no other reason, I would never support a bid of his for Presidency just out of the sheer disrespect he showed for our government by using the office of the Vice Presidency as a shelter from political inquiry and responsibility by nimbly dancing between Executive and Legislative branch depending on what action he was trying to justify or disclosure he was attempting to dodge.

His actions represent, to me, a clear abuse of office and overstepping of intended authority. While the VP should have a voice in the counsel of the President as well as stay informed and engaged enough to faithfully take on the role of President should the need arise, I think the boundaries of intent were pushed to their breaking point. The primary role and focus of the Vice President is to pretty much to sit back, stfu, and cast the tie breaking vote in the event of a 50/50 split in the Senate. When the VP as the presiding officer supposedly cannot even influence the Senate's decision by joining in on the debates being moderated - how is it then inferred that the VP should have a substantial or dominant voice in advising the President? The VP is basically a glorified "traffic cop" at the intersection of opinions and agendas.



The mere suggesting of a Cheney/Palin ticket in 2012 may seem ludicrous to many now, but I see no inherent reason why it wouldn't be possible. Perhaps even likely depending on how the next few years leading up to it play out.

It's ironic... I once viewed Bob Dole as a second-rate contender to a heavy-weight bout in the bid for the Presidency, with the knockout blow in '96. I couldn't believe the conservatives couldn't present a more inspired, driven, and personable candidate. He just didn't impress me. In light of a suggested Cheney/Palin ticket though... I find myself desperate for a conservative candidate of Bob Dole's demeanor and caliber.

Originally posted by buddhasystem
There is not an iota of common sense in what you said. The GOP is hell bent on making the Dems fail without any regard to public good. What further division are you talking about?

Thank you for finally saying what you meant all along
which is the GOP is evil and the Dems are great!

That's the division i'm talking about, making people like you think that the Dems are all great people.

Only good dems are Grayson and Kuccinich, and a few others.

The greatest politician in the United states right now is Ron Paul and he's a republican.

It's not about parties, it's about individuals.
You lose

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Thank you for finally saying what you meant all along
which is the GOP is evil and the Dems are great!

I didn't say Dems were great, don't put words in my mouth.
What I said is that the GOP is already fragmented because some of them worship Palin and others run away from her as if she's the devil. Go figure.

I don't know who the GOP will put up next time around, but it won't be Cheney, that much is certain.

Although he doesn't give a chit, even he knows that he's a pariah on the political scene, the GOP didn't even want him at their convention.

Palin is an empty sack, she could get some votes, sure, but she could never be a serious contender against a serious politician, she's just not smart enough, and she's got problems on the horizon anyway.

Crist, he's gay, and the GOP knows that they can't conceal that fact anymore with pretty beards. Even Rove recently contributed to his opponents campaign.

Jindal, nope. He's too thin on most issues, and his personal life before politics are a problem for him. Oh, and he's brown, and we all know that the GOP doesn't support people who are brown.

Pawlenty, nope. His personal life and behind the scenes political activities are going to bring him down, at least for the next couple of election cycles.

Huckabee, maybe. But he can't win the whole game, and the GOP knows that. He's a proud part of that evangelical movement, and he's stated that he believes that the constitution should be "brought into line with Gods law". He could do well in the deep south, but I think that's about it.
He's also got a few problems down the pipe, that would only be problems if he decides to run for President.

Romney, maybe. He's the most legitimate contender out there, right now anyway. But I think we all saw that there's just something about him that turns people off, and he really needs to acquire a personality. He should also stop flip-flopping on on issues, that would help. But he is the most legitimate candidate right now.

I still think that the next big thing in GOP politics hasn't come to the surface just yet.

If Dick Cheney is considering running, we should be more concerned about why the Republican Party would intentionally throw away an election (again?)..

(IE- who the hell would vote for Dick Cheney?)

Oh tears! Wait, there was an article to this title. Just a sec.















PLEASE let it be true. LMAO. Oh GODS let it be true!

4 more years of Obama coming right up.

Originally posted by uaocteaou
I don't know who the GOP will put up next time around, but it won't be Cheney, that much is certain.

Although he doesn't give a chit, even he knows that he's a pariah on the political scene, the GOP didn't even want him at their convention.

Palin is an empty sack, she could get some votes, sure, but she could never be a serious contender against a serious politician, she's just not smart enough, and she's got problems on the horizon anyway.

Crist, he's gay, and the GOP knows that they can't conceal that fact anymore with pretty beards. Even Rove recently contributed to his opponents campaign.

Jindal, nope. He's too thin on most issues, and his personal life before politics are a problem for him. Oh, and he's brown, and we all know that the GOP doesn't support people who are brown.

Pawlenty, nope. His personal life and behind the scenes political activities are going to bring him down, at least for the next couple of election cycles.

Huckabee, maybe. But he can't win the whole game, and the GOP knows that. He's a proud part of that evangelical movement, and he's stated that he believes that the constitution should be "brought into line with Gods law". He could do well in the deep south, but I think that's about it.
He's also got a few problems down the pipe, that would only be problems if he decides to run for President.

Romney, maybe. He's the most legitimate contender out there, right now anyway. But I think we all saw that there's just something about him that turns people off, and he really needs to acquire a personality. He should also stop flip-flopping on on issues, that would help. But he is the most legitimate candidate right now.

I still think that the next big thing in GOP politics hasn't come to the surface just yet.

Any thoughts on Newt Gingrich?

Wonderful an old man with no heart and a bimbo with no brain...there is an old Hollywood musical there somewhere.

A nightmare ticket is what that is if only by the off chance that they could win...

but I seriously doubt that they could...

Still it would be fun to watch the prince of darkness and Frodo square off.

[edit on 6-10-2009 by grover]

Many people have bitched, whined, and complained about Bush in the previous eight years, myself included, and many people have complained about Obama’s handling of our country so far for the first ten months, myself included, of what many people hope will be Barack Obama’s only Presidential term on office, but far worse it would be if Dick Cheney took up residence yet again at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, no matter if Sarah Palin was his running mate, or Joan of Arc. I know as far as I am concerned, I would much rather see Ted Kaczynski run as a Presidential nominee with as his Vice Presidential running mate the sociopath who has been locked up for as long as I have walked planet Earth, Charles Manson. I hope people realize that this was dark humor mixed with sarcasm and in no way misconstrue that as condoning what those two nutcases have done in the past, and in no way no matter how much I have bitched about the U.S. Federal Government for my entire life, I would sooner not see Cheney inhabit the White House again.

If this is announced as an actual viable Presidential ticket for 2012, I will either seek to run for office myself with ATS’s own SkepticOverlord as my Vice Presidential running mate or I will be leaving this country to never return ever again. I think that a host of other American citizens would storm Capitol Hill, or flee North through the Canadian Border, or South through the Mexican Border and renounce their citizenship just to escape the future oppressive regime that would be the Cheney/Palin Administration because while Sarah Palin might be considered a viable option, whatever choices she made or whatever good she may or may not represent, there is no way she can balance out the vile salacious corruption that exudes and oozes from Dick Cheney. People should wonder at this potential ticket for the very future of our nation that people were worried about the potential for F.E.M.A. Detention Camps becoming a reality through False Flag Operations under George W. Bush, they would become a reality, False Flag Operations, or not, regardless of what we as American citizens think, want, need, or demand. I can see how dark the world would become if this became a reality because the people of the rest of the world would become proactive in destroying our beloved nation and I would find it difficult as Hell to blame them, let alone stop them.

This may in fact have become a rumor in order to scare American’s into voting again for Barack Obama and whether it is or not, I cannot see this potential scare tactics as reason enough to see the Obama/Biden team as a viable second term through being the Incumbent ticket that I would vote for because no matter what lesser of two evils, Cheney/Palin or Obama/Biden, I would vote for neither. I have often compared being lead to two choices only as no choice whatsoever, because to me when we are limited and or restrained to only two choices we as a society are being manipulated into a false dichotomy because in life there are always more than two choices, sticking with traditional values, or being progressive and instituting new traditions, there is always a third option. Whether I seek office in order to block Cheney/Palin or not, I am going to solicit signatures to block this Presidential ticket form being allowed on the ballot because this cannot be allowed by anyone to happen because as far as I am concerned it was not Osama bin Laden that was the mastermind behind the September 11th attack, but Dick Cheney pulling the puppet strings to disable American defenses against those planes that destroyed the World Trade Towers.

Oh good gawd, NOOOOO!

I don't like when people refer to certain leaders as being the "Antichrist" but if there ever was one on this Earth, it's Dick mo-fo'in Cheyney!! That guy gives me the heeby jeebies and I am still completely perplexed (an understatement) as to why ANYONE, who is supposedly in their right mind, supports that guy.

We saw what the world was like with Dick Cheyney as VP. I am on the verge of tears just from trying to think of what it would be like with him as POTUS!

Originally posted by lucentenigma
heh, I'm coining the phrase 'Chain and Pain'.

That made me laugh!

Personally in my opinion Palin is a polarizing figure. And becoming more so by the day.

Wild horses wont stop her...oh wait she is one, thats right!

All of the men politicans will have a love hate relationship with her...
this will be perfect for Cheney, that is all he knows.



[edit on 6-10-2009 by burntheships]

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas

This may in fact have become a rumor in order to scare American’s into voting again for Barack Obama and whether it is or not, I cannot see this potential scare tactics as reason enough to see the Obama/Biden team as a viable second term through being the Incumbent ticket that I would vote for because no matter what lesser of two evils, Cheney/Palin or Obama/Biden, I would vote for neither.

Or it could be much, much more nefarious than that.

Think about it. IF we were left with an Obama/Biden and Cheney/Palin ticket, the vast majority of voting American's only vote for one or the other. Maybe Obama was used to "scare" us into seeing Cheney (*shiver*) as the only other viable option because who the hell would vote for Obama again?

Just saying that makes me want to claw my eyes out.

reply to post by LadySkadi

Any thoughts on Newt Gingrich?

well, since you asked.... yes.

I think Newt is damaged goods also. A savvy politician to be sure, but he is now destined to help the GOP from other venues, such as TV, Radio, PAC's. But as a national candidate, I doubt it.

The sanctions, the hypocrisy of railing against Clinton for an extra marital affair, while he, himself was having an extra marital affair, have damaged him from running an effective campaign for national office.

I think Newt likes the freedom of making waves, and tons of money, without the additional scrutiny of being in office.