reply to post by Mike_A
Well there's really no point and I can't really describe another kind of love. I was just asking if you believed there is another higher level form
of love like many people do that isn't purely biological, but you don't. You just believe in the biological kind
You do believe in something you call love, but it was a different kind than what I was talking about. So, my argument doesn't really apply to the
kind of love you believe in because what I was asking is simply do you believe in it? Well, the answer is no so I have my answer there.
As for making a conscious decision, well there's not really evidence that people either can or cannot make conscious decisions. It's just an unknown
of science at this point that they argue about endlessly.
Much of the evidence shows that the conscious itself is just an emergent illusion of the evolutionary process and people actually subconsciously make
the decision sometimes seconds before they actually "thought" they themselves made the decision. In other words your conscious and the perception
that you have made a decision is actually a trick of the brain.
That the brain is like a computer where you can only make decisions based on past knowledge and experience, but since you can't control what your
past experiences were you can't really control which decision you will make and therefore don't really have any control over your future experiences
and therefore decisions either. So you never really get a chance to make a free will decision. You just pick how the computer in your head is
programmed to pick.
Computer scientists understand this theory of determinism well, but it's a bit hard for other people. The computer can't really make a true
decision. It just does what it's programmed to. If It does make a decision it is because it was programmed to make that decision. It has no choice in
Other people do believe in free will though or even something called free-won't where all you have is veto power, but they don't know where it comes
from and don't really have any evidence to prove it one way or another. Like if your brain is built out of nothing but atoms and atoms have no free
will then where does the free will come from? This is something that keeps AI programmers up at night BTW because not only have they not figured it
out yet, they don't even know if free will is real.
Cause every atom and chemical reaction in your body is bound to the laws of determinism just like a computer. Which decisions you make are based on
the computations that are carried out by those atoms and electrons and so forth.
When there is nothing to control the atoms in your brain other than the laws of the universe then there really is no free will because the laws of
science will always determine what path the atoms take to calculate the decision.
At a quantum level there might be some randomness involved, but you don't have any more control over the random signal that's sent up to your brain
than you do a non-random one. You may make a decision based on some random results, but you don't really have control over the randomness, so even
though you may make a different decision, it isn't one that you had any control over because the decision was based on information sent to your brain
that you had no control over.
So where does the free-will come from? Well who knows. Much of the evidence shows it doesn't even exist.
I believe it exists though, but it might not. I don't know if free will exists or not. Do you believe that free will exists?