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Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
When looking at these figures, you have to take two things into account:
1) They are coming from the AMA, a group who heavily favored eliminating Medicare until about 3 months ago,
and 2) Doctors file many, many, many more Medicare reimbursement claims than they do private health claims. Most physicians who accept Medicare do so with the understanding that there is a larger pool of money in Medicare than in private insurers. If I'm working with a patient who uses Medicare, I would file reimbursement for every bit and piece of equipment and medical care given, as I know that most likely, the cost will average out when you take accepted claims and rejected claims into account. I wouldn't file as many with private insurers, as they are most likely to reject all but the most barebones claims.
These two points could explain rejection rate inflation on Medicare's part.
When looking at these figures, you have to take two things into account:
1) They are coming from the AMA, a group who heavily favored eliminating Medicare until about 3 months ago,
2) Doctors file many, many, many more Medicare reimbursement claims than they do private health claims.
First, these aren't just "figures."
The "Report Cards" are 16 pages (2008) and 24 pages(2009) and include in-depth analysis of dozens of criteria. These reports cover SEVEN payers: Aetna, Anthem/BCBS, Cigna, Coventry, Health Net, Humana, United Health Care, AND Medicare.
It wasn't "targeted" at anybody other than people who pay them for their work.
Nope. These aren't total numbers, they are percentages of claims PER payer.
And, not all AMA members participate in Medicare!
Unfortunately, even if you lump all the private payers together, Medicare's RATE of denial is much higher.
Just recently found out that my father was denied coverage due to Sleep Apnea. Problem is, he was never diagnosed. In fact, he was never even tested for it.
Source?
Medicare fraud takes a lot of money every year from the Medicare program.
To stop the fraud the medicare system treats all claims as suspicious till proven wrong.
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa
If you use the links provided, you could see the Report Cards in their entirety, including supporting documentation from the payers them selves and independent third parties.
Source?
If you use the links provided, you could see the Report Cards in their entirety, including supporting documentation from the payers them selves and independent third parties.
That's why they're in the OP.
jw
Every claim, public and private, is subject to specific coding and billing requirements to minimize fraud.
This is true regardless of the nature of the source of the money. EVERYONE is subject to fraud, and ALL claims must be substantiated.
Nevertheless, many criminals realize that the Government will not do as good a job of screening, and will pay claims that are blatantly fraudulent.
Government incompetence is the single largest source of medicare and medicaid fraud.
(Want a free electric scooter, hearing aid, or glucose meter? No doctor required. No tests, no 'messy paperwork.' Just provide your Government program info., and it's yours. Guaranteed. (sound familiar?) Try THAT with private insurance.)
Private payers do not just accept any claim at face value.
Would you?
jw
Neither of your links provide the information I asked for, which would clear up any transparency issues that are raised between the time the data was collect and the time the AMA "analysed" it.
I don't see how you can realistically say Medicare denies more claims than "all other private insurers combines". Even your links don't support that.
I do not know what you asked for. The links include the complete "Report Cards " for 2008 and 2009. There are links within the reports to the AMA and payers own records used in their compilations
Yes, they do: Combine the private payers' denial rates for 2008 and 2009, combined. Take the average.
Take the Medicare rate of denial for 2008. Combine with 2009 rate. Take the average.
Subtract the private payers' combined average denial rate form the Medicare combined average denial rate.
If the result is a postive number, Medicare has a higher combined rate.
If the result is a negative number, Medicare has a lower combined rate.
I learned how to do this from Mrs. Skloss in the 4th grade.
I got an "A."
jw
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa
Even if you added the 6 private payers for 2008 and9, THEY ARE STILL LOWER!
Call the study what you want. The fact that you can't find what you want to see doesn't change the facts:
For 2007 and 2008, Medicare had the highest claim denial rate.
If you don't like the Reports, take it up with the publishers, the American Medical Association.
jw