The Holy Bible and Freemasonry, page 1


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reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 08:16 AM by 12.21.12
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What about baptism and communion?
Or was that taken from christianity?


reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 09:12 AM by M74
Originally posted by 12.21.12
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What about baptism and communion?
Or was that taken from christianity?


Maybe I'm not following what you're trying to ask, but there is no Masonic baptism and no reenactment of the last supper in lodges.


reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 12:04 PM by Masonic Light
Originally posted by 12.21.12
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There isn't?

www.thesanctumsanctorum.com...


There is no rite of Baptism in Craft Lodges that exist in English-speaking countries. There are, however, various rites of so-called "Masonic baptism" that have been used in continental Europe, most of them having originated in France.


reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 12:56 PM by emsed1
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This does not happen in any American lodge I am aware of.

This 'painting with a broad brush' is getting a little old. Choosing a tiny aspect of something possibly sinister and applying it to the whole of Freemasonry is a simple failure of logic, a fallacy.

It's like saying that since our 'Declaration of Independence' refers to 'Indian Savages' that the whole of America hates red people.

And before you guys start down the racism track - I refer to 'red people' in the most respectful of terms. I am Cherokee-descent so I think it's OK.


reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 01:46 PM by 12.21.12
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I argue not that Freemasonry is un-christian.

On the contrary, it is the traditions of freemasonry are abundant and practiced in Christianity (as well as other societies and religions) . I argue that Christianity is not the predominate influence behind Freemasonry, but rather Christianity adopts masonic teachings and rituals. Therefor, Christianity is directly lifted from the teachings of masonry, yet revealed in a much different context, which overall is very similar to masonic tradition.

So which came first the chicken or the egg?

www.esotericarchives.com...
1. Testament of Solomon, son of David, who was king in Jerusalem, and mastered and controlled all spirits of the air, on the earth, and under the earth. By means of them also he wrought all the transcendent works of the Temple. Telling also of the authorities they wield against men, and by what angels these demons are brought to naught.



reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 05:11 PM by 12.21.12
reply to post by Masonic Light



Like I said.

Christianity adopts masonic teachings and rituals



reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 05:19 PM by emsed1
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Well... I'm not sure but since Freemasonry originated 1700 years AFTER the death of Christ it would be hard for it to come first.

However there were plenty of esoteric groups present around Jesus time, and some people will even argue that Jesus himself was a member of one.

Again though you are using false logic. Christianity began with Paul in the first century AD. Freemasonry didn't begin until 1717 AD.
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