There is something in the vaccine, page 5
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reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 11:46 AM by arroyofly
For those of you denying that there is anything in "this vaccine", just because some of the early takers of it *seem* to be fine, I must warn you that there are many, MANY different batches by different companies. One of the companies making it is Baxter, the company that is under federal indictment for shipping LIVE avian flu virus to a dozen or so sites earlier this year! Reuters has also announced today that GlaxoSmithKline has now been contracted by the government to produce later phases of the virus, making the total number of pharmaceutical companies on board at least six.

www.reuters.com...

That same article now states that our government has ordered 440 million vaccines for us at a cost of $3.5 BILLION. The numbers are CONSTANTLY changing but I know just last week the MSM was saying that our government was going to order at least 245 million vaccines for Americans, and that number has been increasing. Now, who is going to be getting all those vaccines if only 40% of people say they even want the vaccine? Are they expecting an increase in deaths or more hysteria to trigger the next phase of fence-sitters who are undecided about getting it? Something is still not right, and I'm sure they aren't going to put the bad batches up front that are going to do the most immediate damage, otherwise people would stop getting the vaccine. Remember, right now they are only doing the FluMist version as far as I know, and that one is the one that allegedly contains the live virus. Also, there will be countless batches of injectable vaccine later and some of those may contain a live virus of some sort, not to mention all the debilitating squalene that was NOT present in the trial vaccines that were used on pregnant women.

So to say that "the vaccine" is safe misses the point that there are an unknown amount of different vaccine varieties and batches being included as the "H1N1 vaccine" that most people are unaware even exist. Please beware that the people behind this are relatively smart and probably have most of their bases covered. I believe they want to psychologically convince the most amount of people that "the vaccine" is safe in order to get the most amount of people to "volunteer" for it initially, through various phases of implementation. Later on the damage will become evident but it will be too late. There is a lot of documentation out there that supports this type of a theory. They definitely have some sort of plan with this flu scare other than just making a lot of money for the pharmaceutical companies (which is absolutely part of it).

Don't fall into their trap. As I have said on other forums (and I am new to this one), you can fend off any disease or flu with colloidal silver, vitamin D3 in the range of 5,000-10,000 IU daily, vitamin C, elderberry syrup, fresh garlic, lots of CLEAN (non-fluoridated/non-chlorinated) water, and plenty of fresh organic fruits and veggies. Eating a healthy diet, taking the right supplements and vitamins, and avoiding excessive amounts of refined sugar should keep you healthy. I haven't gotten sick in ages because I eat the right nutrients and supplement my diet. The silver and vitamin D are VITAL to fending off the flu, though. I do not get vaccinated and never will - I do not get these "pandemic" diseases. You won't hear this stuff on the news, but it is true and it works. Don't listen to THEIR lies and THEIR fear-mongering that makes you think you need these mercury-laden vaccines in order to be safe. It is all a lie.

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reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 11:58 AM by Copernicus
reply to post by rival



To me its simple. The virus looks engineered. So someone is pulling strings here. I just dont feel like being a puppet.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 08:44 AM by Grady
I've been reading posts on this website for about 7 or 8 months and feel it is time for me to chime in regarding H1N1 Vaccine. I enjoy some of the subjects on this site and have to say there are some very educated and well written members.

My very first words typed on ATS.

First and foremost I will not accept the vaccine, nor will my wife or children. I've been a paramedic for 12 years - have never had a flu vaccine and never contracted the flu. Trust me when I tell you that I've been around plenty of flu patients through the years.

I recived a letter in the mail yesterday from my home state Dept of Health requesting assistance from ALS providers (paramedics) for administration of H1N1 vaccine at mass vaccination sites beginning in mid to late October. Have not as of yet been mandated to accept vaccine for work, but that could change overnight I'm sure.

I peronally am not convinced of any govt attempt to harm it's citizens with a vaccine, but have to admit that something seems odd about this current vaccine campaign. I've researched as much as I can regarding flu vaccine's and feel that I am making an informed and educated decision in refusing H1N1 vaccine for myself and family.

By the way - I did an informal survey at our local trauma center and found that probably 95% of RN's will be refusing the vaccine. We have a local Dr who is nationaly known for pandemic and biological terrorism studies - he advised anyone interested in the H1N1 vaccine to wait for the 1st round to go through and see what happens. Take that for whats it's worth.

I feel that my positon in Emergency Health Care offers a view of the current flu situation that your average citizen may not not have. I will share anything new I learn and give any insight I can.

Eat healthy - Exercise - Be healthy


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 10:29 AM by irishchic
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Gave you a star for your logic and clarity and also because the words "Eat Healthy,Exercise,Be Healthy" are SO important in SO many way for SO many reasons right now it isn't even funny.

I am thinking this:

People who take the first round of the shot that will trickle in via limited doses will be fine and others will start to "get sick" from SOMETHING...will be a mass-run for the H1N1 vaccine thus resulting in exactly the "mass vaccicine" locations you describe and opening that can of worms for whatever else might be coming along...
They are creating the fear,the uncertainty,and the resulting panic will no doubt create the ideal climate for "change" and or "control..."

I cannot believe this is the world we wake up to everyday.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 08:39 PM by Violater1
There are multiple complications with the H1N1 Vaccine
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DO in her article,
“FLU SHOTS AND THE NEW ADJUVANTS: BEWARE!”, clearly outline the dangers in the components of the vaccine.
An adjuvant has been approved in Europe and its approval is on the way for use in the U.S. It is an oil-based adjuvant called MF-59, a compound primarily composed of squalene.
According to The Journal of Immunological Methods 286 (2004) 47-67
www.anthrax.osd.mil...
“There was an increased prevalence of antibodies to squalene ( SQE) in serum from females as compared to males.” The above article is a must read.
The article in the American Journal of Pathology. 2000;156:2057-2065
ajp.amjpathol.org... depict what would happen to a person with arthritis, if they would receive this vaccine.
Additional information on the dangers of the components of the vaccine can be found at U.S. National Institutes of Health
www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov...
We at ATS have a responsibility to the public to provide a balanced, factual report, so that our readers can make an informed and implied consent.


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 12:07 PM by m khan
reply to post by Decoy



Health professionals are expendible because legislation has been passed in most states ( I don't know if all) legal requirements for administers of vaccine are suspended. That any military member or volunteer is legally qualified to give you your shot. Therefor if health professionals will simply take the damn shot they will conveniently be out of the way.
This corresponds of course with the government takeover of the hospitals, which can then be staffed with Obama's new Healthcore in the absence of our health professionals.


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 12:15 PM by m khan
reply to post by arroyofly



That will work fine until Jan 1, 2010 when Codex Alimentarius clicks in and all of a sudden nutritious food is outlawed and vitamins are monopolized by big Pharma. Natural foods will not be available then and toxins from food & fertilizer not to mention jettrails will be bombarding our immune systems. Just avoiding the shot is not enough. We need to throw out the FDA and stop Codex Alimentarius.
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