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Iran Nukes? Exlpain to me why this is a bad idea

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posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 09:52 AM

Originally posted by Dorian Soran

Originally posted by heineken
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dorian...who for you is behind the 9/11 attacks??

Please do not try to steer away the subject matter of a thread in the "General Conspiracy Discussion" area by asking a question that belongs in the "9/11 forum"

You can go into that forum anytime and see what my thoughts on 9/11 are - please do not try and make this about 9/11 its about Iran having nukes - and the 2 topics ARE PRETTY FAR APART FROM ONE ANOTHER - lets not try to confuse the 2.


Dorian Soran
The Good Doctor

[edit on 6-10-2009 by Dorian Soran]

im not steering away...please answer and then you will have my answer

posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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I'm finding it hard to understand how you have come to these conclusions when the links you have provided proves the exact opposite.

2. (Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)Denies the holocaust

"The assertion that Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust thus is wrong in more than one aspect. He does not deny the Holocaust, but speaks of denial itself. And he does not speak of denial of the Holocaust, but of denial of the Myth of Holocaust.

This is something totally different. All in all he speaks of the exploitation of the Holocaust. The Myth of Holocaust, like it is made a subject of discussion by Ahmadinejad, is a myth that has been built up in conjunction with the Holocaust to - as he says - put pressure onto somebody. We might follow this train of thoughts or we might not. But we cannot equalize his thoughts with denial of the Holocaust.

If Ahmadinejad according to this 2006-02-11 condemns the fact that it is forbidden and treated as a crime to do research into the Myth of Holocaust, as we find it quoted in the MEMRI translation, this acquires a meaning much different from the common and wide-spread one. If the myth related to the Holocaust is commuted to a 'Fairy Tale of the Massacre' - like the DPA did - this can only be understood as a malicious misinterpretation."

4.(Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)Wants to wipe Israel off the map

"It's becoming clear. The statements of the Iranian President have been reflected by the media in a manipulated way. Iran's President betokens the removal of the regimes, that are in power in Israel and in the USA, to be possible aim for the future.

This is correct. But he never demands the elimination or annihilation of Israel. He reveals that changes are potential. The Shah-Regime being supported by the USA in its own country has been vanquished. The eastern governance of the Soviet Union collapsed. Saddam Hussein's dominion drew to a close. Referring to this he voices his aspiration that changes will also be feasible in Israel respectively in Palestine. He adduces Ayatollah Khomeini referring to the Shah-Regime who in this context said that the regime (meaning the Shah-Regime) should be removed.

Certainly, Ahmadinejad translates this quotation about a change of regime into the occupied Palestine. This has to be legitimate. To long for modified political conditions in a country is a world-wide day-to-day business by all means. But to commute a demand for removal of a 'regime' into a demand for removal of a state is serious deception and dangerous demagogy."

I must say, thanks for providing the links. They are so informative and provide an unbiased and accurate analysis of what actually were spoken by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The constant and manipulative lies by western media to provide a distorted image of Ahmadinejad is utterly reprehensible.

To this very day the words "wipe off the map" are still being disgorged by every western commentators and leaders, knowing full well it has been deliberately misinterpreted. This is in itself both deceitful and disingenuous.

Your link also provided this interesting conclusion. A classic manipulative strategy of the west, preparing the world for another unjust war.

"The next step is to connect the Iranian President with Hitler. 2006-02-20 the Chairman of the Counsil of Jews in France (Crif) says in Paris: "The Iranian President's assertions do not rank behind Hitler's 'Mein Kampf'". Paul Spiegel, President of the Central Counsil of Jews in Germany, 2005-12-10 in the 'Welt' qualifies the statements of Ahmadinejad to be "the worst comment on this subject that he has ever heard of a statesman since A. Hitler". At the White House the Iranian President is even named Hitler.

All this indicates war. Slobodan Milosevic became Hitler. The result was the war of the Nato against Yugoslavia. Saddam Hussein became Hitler. What followed was the war the USA and their coalition of compliant partners waged against Iraq. Now the Iranian President becomes Hitler."

As you can see, how you can come to these conclusions about Ahmadinejad with your own links is still incomprehensible. Maybe you are another victim of this relentless propaganda war on Iran that makes you see only what you are dictated by western media to see.

[edit on 6-10-2009 by A Conscience]

[edit on 6-10-2009 by A Conscience]

posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 11:50 AM
Iran having Nuclear energy is not the issue here, it's the pursuit of Nuclear arms that is the problem. I for one do not Iran to obtain them. People here can spin Amajedins(sp?) words any way they want but the Iranian's have made it clear the west is the enemy. North Korea is a great example, once the ability is obtained it can be used. North Korea may never actually use a nuke on anyone however the leverage is there to threaten anyone anytime.

Iran believes, as they have said they are to facilitate the coming of the 12 Iman which would signal the final battle and in this case it includes the destruction of Isreal.

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