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Technology and our children

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posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 02:11 AM
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I think that we are damaging our children with too much technology.

Apart from the fact that I am very concerned about the see-through walls scenario that has been discussed, I am worried that our teenagers are into technology more than they are into each other.

Our babies and our young children are growing up brainwashed, ignorant about the history of the world. And people who are ignorant about history repeat bad history.

Do we teach our children racism? Yes. Do we teach our children warfare? Yes.

Do we teach our children to communicate with other people, face to face? No.




posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 02:48 AM
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One thing I do find interesting with technology is that no matter how sophisticated things become, especially mobiles as an example, the more they are used, the less people communicate properly. People are starting to write in text language as a normal method of communication and with texting being cheaper than calling that is only going to get worse.

As for do we teach warfare, I think the speciality is fear, people cannot think correctly when they are scared....



I often wonder about claims that human beings are becoming more intelligent, I really doubt that.

Its interesting that this era is called the information age, not the knowledge age, speaks for itself really. We are filling our heads with trash and everyone is that stupid that they call it facts as it is repeatedly bombarded at them.



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posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 02:52 AM
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Hey X,

It is always nice to hear from you.

I think this is a huge problem, and a problem that is not going to be resolved.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 02:55 AM
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it really depends on who/what the children is opening their ears and brain to. and if their parents or whoever take care of them just let them do w/e the hell they want without telling them whats best for them to do than punishing them without letting them know what wrong they've done.

peer pressure and other things add into the cycle of ignorance aswell.

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posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 02:58 AM
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reply to post by platipus
 


Yes, but their ears and brains are open to technology now.

Technology is going to come back and bite us on the bum - a bit of straight talking from a kiwi.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:01 AM
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i completely agree. Technology is making it easier to talk to people without even being next to them.

Why call and ask how they are doing when you can just read their my space of twitter?

I have developed a hatred for texting. I refuse to answer any texts. Soon you wont even need to hear the person to have a conversation with them.

kids should be taught to enjoy technology but not abuse it.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:01 AM
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its not just technology itself thats all-bad cuz you can make good use of it for a tool and limiting it pleasure use.

something tells me anyways theres going to be a day people that depended on technology will let them down and teach them a lesson


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posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:05 AM
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I almost think its inevitable that technology is going to become a greater part of all of our lives whether we like it or not. I actually believe it wont be too long until we incorporate technology into the human body. I mean just look at how far technology has come in the last 20 years.

the technology our kids will use in the future is almost unimaginable at the moment. i would say there will be an increase in virtual reality incorporating games such as 2nd life (already 30 million users). the differences between the real and virtual will become blurred. It will pose many problems. we will become the 1st animal to completely leave its physical reality and create our own virtual environments, virtual galaxies, virtual planets, virtual identities.

The Future will be both scary and exciting.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:07 AM
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I dont normally quote the bible but this is something I am noticing...

Daniel 12:4


But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


Increase in knowledge, sound familiar? Running to and fro? Sound familiar?

Matthew 24:36 - 39


36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


People should read about the days of Noah because we are mirroring the days of Noah.

2 Timothy 3:1-5


1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.


There are tonnes of relevant scriptures to our times and I am not going to quote anymore as it would just flood your topic far too much but nobody is realising the times we are in.



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posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:09 AM
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Yes Doc,

I worry about our young people - what the hell are we teaching them? That technology is the greatest, that you don't talk to anyone face to face, that war is OK, that its ok to let starving people die...

How about we tell young people that you NEED to talk to people face to face, that you NEED to care about war and killing - which they don't because of their games, and that you NEED to LIVE YOUR LIFE IN THIS WORLD, not in a game.

And that we all need to save starving people.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:09 AM
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thats already happened, the part it will be part of human sensory is just a step further.

i can see good use of it for learning purposes such as learning to be a doctor or engineer, but the part they're making games even harder to let go of for kids is just a let down.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by spellbound
I think that we are damaging our children with too much technology.


I once posted a similar thread on another messageboard and got back a reply I've always remembered: "Yes, but sometimes you just have to open a new door and walk through, without knowing exactly what's behind it."

Overall, I tend to agree with you. Damage is being done, but we won't know exactly how until the kids reach maturity. Its important to remember that here may also be lots of benefits to the change, too. In the end, like so much else, we just don't know.

One thing that makes me a bit pessimistic is looking at the past 50 years and what TV has done to society. I think the negative effects have been far greater than anyone imagined possible 50 years ago, and far greater than most realize today. For example, TV has made people much more narcissistic and materialistic...it has an enormous power to instill greed and feelings of worthlessness both via advertising and the shows they sponsor. All the higher-tech stuff (the Internet, texting, etc.) might turn out to be even worse...like "TV on steroids."

One thing I fear is the increasing visualization of the Internet. At least with "Internet 1.0," it involves mostly reading and writing (as with this messagebaoard). That can be a very GOOD thing for kids and adults alike. On the other hand, studies are already showing that the Internet shatters attention spans and can cause ADD and ADHD in both kids and adults.

As the net becomes less "textual" and more "you-tube-y," I tremble to contemplate a future that combines the worst of TV and the net.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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yeh, it seems like were using all of our time and money to entertain ourselves instead of helping people out there who needs the hand.
kids develop a self centered attitude this way.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:17 AM
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ironic that the internet was originally created to help intellectuals share ideas. Now its:

5% information
15% blogs
20% funny animals
30% attention whores
30% porn.

things sure turned out as planned...

and soon i think there will be almost nothing worth reading on the internet. Just a slew of idiots argueing with other idiots about which dog has a funnier hat.

i also blame the media. no one cares about obama's policies when most the networks are showing what new dress miley cyrus is wearing.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:19 AM
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you forgot the big junk which is games games games, which probably mixes with attention whores and funny animals...and the rest.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:20 AM
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Basically, no-one cares about anyone else.

No wonder we are headed for doom.

What about all these earthquakes?



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:34 AM
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Good points all. But there is still a lot of excellent free or cheap info on the Intenet, from the classic "Great Books" to more wild-eyed esoteric stuff. I take every chance I can get to remind people that they should start collecting INFORMATION while it is still free or low-priced, because I think in a few years a lot of the higher-quality info that's free on the net will be much less accessable or more expensive. The legal structure of copyright law compells me to remind everyone not to break any laws and to do everything safely and leagally, but I highly recommend everyone become an "info packrat." I have downloaded and saved the equivalent of a respectable mid-sized public library on a seperate hard drive over the past few years...everything from science textbook PDFs to Grecko-Roman classics to more esoteric stuff that interests me.

Many people on this board have food, gold, and ammo hordes. But do you have your INFORMATION horde yet? Because I have a nasty hunch that a lot that is free or cheap now will be harder to access in 2 or 3 years as the net increasingly "goes corporate." Again, don't break any laws but start collecting furiously while there is still time. Especially info that "TPTB" might not want you to have.

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posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 04:50 AM
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Do we teach our children racism? Yes. Do we teach our children warfare? Yes.

Do we teach our children to communicate with other people, face to face? No.


Actually, racism and warfare are not taught. They're a part of the human psyche. No tribe of people known to man current or historic was without tribal prejudice or warfare of some kind manifest. They're human universals. However, their effects can be mitigated through cultural/social tactics such as an emphasis on recognizing the difference between an individual and a group, and recognizing that prejudging an individual by the shared tendencies of a group (whether real or imagined/exaggerated/projected) is wrong and unjust. Especially so in the case of racial stereotypes/prejudices because the individual cannot choose their lineage as they can their religion, political affiliation, etc. I would recommend reading up on in-group/out-group tribal/evolutionary psychology. There's also a strong case to be made for the continuing decrease in violence in favor of trade, communication, and education. You were actually less likely to die at the hands of another man in the 20th century, than you were at most other times in human history.

If anything, the march of technology and the rise of the internet (I suspect) have had a net benefit for reducing racism. After all, here on message forums, above all other avenues, the content of your character judged long before the color of your skin.

As for face-to-face communications, I don't really see where this factors is - as even before the technological age, the primary social skill building ground was public schools. This hasn't changed.



Our babies and our young children are growing up brainwashed, ignorant about the history of the world.


As were you, and many others long before technology like the internet arrived on the scene. For those who want to learn, it's a liberating tool from the tyranny of cultural memes. For instance, did you know that Napoleon was actually fairly tall for his time? Or that Catherine the Great died of a stroke, and not from being crushed to death by a horse she was supposedly copulating with? That kind of stuff probably isn't taught or stressed in schools. Some cultural memes are accommodated early on, but dispelled later if the student hasn't lost their will to learn by that point. For instance, Columbus had no interest in proving the world was round - which was already well known at the time... and it was Magellan who is credited for first circumnavigating the globe.

However, the basic fact that America has never been a Democratic Nation, but rather was founded as a Constitutional Republic in which leaders are democratically elected - there's simply no excuse for not knowing something so basic. As John Adams wrote, they founded a nation of laws, not men. This is something I sure as hell was taught in my History and Government classes. Yet some people still have trouble with this concept. Who do you blame that failure on? The media? Parents? Culture? The Educational System? The Radio? The Horseless Carriage? The Internet? Rock Music? The loose morals of the Flappers? Reefer Madness?

It's hard to say. Though a large chunk of the blame I lay ultimately with the individual for not desiring to further their bounds and learn something new whenever and wherever they can find the opportunity. Especially in today's information overloaded era. Though, care should be taken to distinguish between credible and dubious sources.

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I often wonder about claims that human beings are becoming more intelligent, I really doubt that.


Actually, people today are far more engaged in literature than they have been for generations. It's really a second Renaissance. While we may criticize such "netspeak" and short stories like that horribly bad (or inverse to win) DOOM fanfiction - consider how often the average person engaged in such writing activities prior to the turn of the century, what we're witnessing is unprecedented. Most people never really wrote much of anything non-essential at all beyond their primary schooling. Now, we at least have that engagement on a basic and eager level - as something normal and common - rather than as an exception.

Texting of course will invade our language. Language evolves and morphs dynamically, and it's only to be expected that it incorporate internet shorthand/slang every bit as much if not more-so than it has incorporated business/clerical shorthand and slang in daily usage.

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posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 08:38 AM
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Technology has become a religion in itself, most people look to
invention to solve the world's problems which are mostly by-products
of the technology itself. Like a dog chasing it's tail we have entered
into a closed loop where the problem offers the solutions. We have
seen this leads us nowhere but further from the real source of creation, magic and life.

The worship of technology is to exalt the mind of man above all. A
dangerous proposition given our propensity to violence. The matrix
is not a hollywood creation, it is the lives of most Americans. Cancer
anyone?



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 09:44 AM
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When children started riding bicycles, they said "how terrible, now our children won't walk enough"
When they invented the typewriter, they said "how terrible, now our children won't write enough"
When they invented the personal computer, they said "how terrible, now our children won't think enough"

It's called Technological Progress - some will evolve and adapt. Some will not.
Those that do will inherit the earth.



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